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B
10 years ago
— regarding excise…
Maybe I am too cautious… I have this hypothesis based on my experience and on the readings.
Hypothesis:
after we discontinued FQ drug, it still damages/weakens our tendon&cartilage step by step, day by day. Maybe you do not feel the damage because the weakness has not reached some sport-limit level yet.
Use numbers. Lets say, we are able to run a 42-Kms marathon prior to FQ, and we took FQ in Dec last year, then for instance:
Jan: our tendon can tolerate 30 km running (do we know about it ? No)
Feb: our tendon can tolerate 20 km running
Mar: our tendon can tolerate 10 km running
Apr: our tendon can tolerate 3 km running
May: our tendon can NOT tolerate running
June:our tendon can NOT tolerate WALK much
July: barely able to walk
….
..,
Several more months later, the damage finally stopped and we begin to climb the recovery curve. The tendons begin to heal step by step, day by day, very slowly.
2 years later, we are back to average normal.
If this hypothesis is fairly ture, we do not really know exactly “WHERE AM I NOW ?”, “what is my capability now”. Besides, there are fluctuations on the curve. Thus, be careful when we do excise.
Hope all of us can manage to enjoy the recovery stage, even though there are real pains.
cheers….
Bo
i have a major Loudest pop and crack on my forearm when i forced my hand to go through a tight top – how careless of me. i shouldn’t even force my hand if i can’t wear forget it.
as it stands, some hours later, i started to experience a bit of pain at wrist.
floxies need to be careful. don’t over exert. learn to let go….!!
Kim
10 years ago
I’m just posting here a link discussing the neuroprotective benefits of Curcumin (Turmeric), particularly with respect to fluoride neurotoxicity. http://www.activistpost.com/2014/04/the-spice-that-prevents-fluoride-from.html?m=1
I don’t even know if in fact it is specifically the fluoride that has damaged us so badly, but I’m always hunting for anything that may help and just wanted to pass this on for others to consider. I have actually already been taking curcumin, (don’t think I’ve noticed a benefitā¦but who knows), but not in nearly as high a dose as suggested by this study (30mg/kg bodyweight).
Healing wishes to everyone.
Hi.
I am currently floxed 1 month in, got tested today for neuropathy and had some blood tests done for vitamin deficiencies and am X-ray on my right foot. I am a 23 yr old female. New here and trying to find recovery stories! Any help? The only posts I see are from this month…
Jenny
10 years ago
Also, has anyone known someone who’s been poisoned by Cipro or a drug related to, had aches and pains at night and was still able to get pregnant and carry a full term pregnancy? please answer ! I Am scared.
Regarding fluorine, i read it will lurk in your deep tissue for at least 1 year. no way at all to detox this creep?
Dean
10 years ago
Anyone suffer from itching all over the body? I have just recently started to and I am wondering if it’s caused by the cipro?
Jnnparis90@aol.com
10 years ago
Destruida los Restos:
Thank you for your quick response I am happy to hear that!! Planing on have lots of kids here.
Jnnparis90@aol.com
10 years ago
Nick:
I suffered from itching all over the first few weeks. It’s gone now.
Jnnparis90@aol.com
10 years ago
Dean*
B
10 years ago
— vertical ridges in fingernails —-
@Jarene @all
Since we talked about “detoxifying herbs”, I want to mention this “vertical ridges in fingernails”. Check whether you have it. To see a picture, google “vertical ridges in fingernails” , or check the picture on Page 66 of “the flox report .pdf version 11 year 2007”.
TCM believes that fingernails is the extending of tendon, while tendon is related to liver.
Thus, need treat liver. TCM recommends :
1, green lemon with the green lemon skins…
2, Wolfberry
3, Acupuncture point: Taichong (on the feet)
4, cry , sweat.
5, sleep during 1AM~2AM (because this is the time that liver does its job)
( Western Medcine does not think so, WM just treat fingernail as fingernail. I do not quite believe in TCM before, but after flox I realized WM cannot always be helpful. In WM, if the lab tests do not show apparent abnormal, then you have no problem. however, apparently, we have problem even though our lab tests are fine.
I am not saying TCM is always right, actually there are too many TCM treatments that cannot be testified by modern science…
)
Interesting! You use USANA Poly C to flush, i never thought of that, maybe i should give it a try! Iām taking Poly C with other USANA supplements together after breakfast and dinner. I took 2 each time. so 4 a day.
As for the chinese detox herbs, i took photo and uploaded online. this is so i wonāt leave out anything.
I think whether or not chinese herb can detox cipro, itās certainly good to detox regularly so our body can continue to remove any toxins, prevent any more damage, reduce inflammation and promote our body to heal.
So far i only heard Zeolite powder can detox antibiotic. havenāt yet to try. I tried Zeolite in liquid before a small bottle with dropper kind, i think you can forget about this. it works nothing and i quickly finished the mini bottle. then yesterday someone was sharing in facebook Zeolite must be tried in Powder format and some discussed it work for them! just donāt buy the liquid formatā¦.
NAC supplement is useful but USANA didnāt carry NAC and this company believe their mega antioxidant is their prime product, contains way more antioxidant potency than others.
during my initial month, i have used chlorella, MCP to detox. finish a cycle of bottle , didnāt notice a big jump in improvement. i think we might have to try a few more cycle to see resultsā¦slowly.
Amy
10 years ago
Help! My anxiety is horrible right now and I can’t handle any supplements due to my stomach being so nauseous!!! Has anyone tried buspar to help anxiety? I know most on here do not want to take any more pharmaceuticals (which I really don’t either) but it is impacting my job and family to an extent I am not comfortable with. I am starting to not be able to function!
Lane
10 years ago
Hi Amy,
I’ve had a lot of success with the Sedona method in treating my anxiety. If you are looking for a non-pharmaceutical solution you might give it a try.
Hope you feel better soon,
Lane
B
10 years ago
@Amy
I know it is difficult, it is painful, and the pain is real. Our hearts go to yours. We all have to experience anxiety and depression. I am a 34 years old man, but I cried several times like a little girl.
“Danger is real, but fear is a choice”.
Believe that you will heal. Since you will heal in future, you do not have be scarified by the present. All that ends well is well.
PS: check the post I put for you under “Lisa’s story”. Have your lab tests done so as to check whether you are having infection. Sometimes it is not infection at all, even though you have UTI-like symptoms.
Tiffany
10 years ago
Have any of you had dental work done since being floxed? I need a filling on one of my teeth, and the doctor said they could either inject Articaine (4%) as a local anesthetic to the gum where the tooth is or inject Mepivacaine into the nerve block. I’m wondering which one to use. Thanks!
Lillybet
10 years ago
Hi all, I was given norfloxacin last year and literally fell apart ever since, I haven’t seen any improvement yet. I was also given a months worth of doxycycline which I finished because I was misdiagnosed as having Lyme disease š I’m 23 I get the feeling of rubber bands snapping burning even my jaw is affected. The scariest thing for me is my joints now clunk :/ has anyone had this that’s gone away, I wasn’t sure norfloxacin could cause this as you usually only see cipro Levaquin, etc. I do push myself I walk I try to do all sorts and it took me months to figure this out so I also was prescribed all sorts of mess my back feels like its ripped to bits and is constantly in spasm! Anyone had these things and got better also my hamstrings are so tight I have tears all round my knees and the skin over them has become paper thin! Anyone out there had similar symptoms and seen improvement I’m young, scared missing out on life right now I’m losing all hope! I can no longer work or anything and worst of it all was I wasn’t even in my own country when I was prescribed this drug, fortunately I made it home before things got this bad, anyone? :'(
B
10 years ago
@Lillybet
Norfloxacin is fluoroquinolones, so it is basically the same thing as “cipro Levaquin, etc.”
First thing is to avoid NSAIDs and steroids, of course, avoid the other fluoroquinolones.
Second, take several hours to read through the comments and stories in this website.
— regarding excise…
Maybe I am too cautious… I have this hypothesis based on my experience and on the readings.
Hypothesis:
after we discontinued FQ drug, it still damages/weakens our tendon&cartilage step by step, day by day. Maybe you do not feel the damage because the weakness has not reached some sport-limit level yet.
Use numbers. Lets say, we are able to run a 42-Kms marathon prior to FQ, and we took FQ in Dec last year, then for instance:
Jan: our tendon can tolerate 30 km running (do we know about it ? No)
Feb: our tendon can tolerate 20 km running
Mar: our tendon can tolerate 10 km running
Apr: our tendon can tolerate 3 km running
May: our tendon can NOT tolerate running
June:our tendon can NOT tolerate WALK much
July: barely able to walk
….
..,
Several more months later, the damage finally stopped and we begin to climb the recovery curve. The tendons begin to heal step by step, day by day, very slowly.
2 years later, we are back to average normal.
If this hypothesis is fairly ture, we do not really know exactly “WHERE AM I NOW ?”, “what is my capability now”. Besides, there are fluctuations on the curve. Thus, be careful when we do excise.
Hope all of us can manage to enjoy the recovery stage, even though there are real pains.
cheers….
Bo
” It happens several times PER DAY on my knees.”
i have a major Loudest pop and crack on my forearm when i forced my hand to go through a tight top – how careless of me. i shouldn’t even force my hand if i can’t wear forget it.
as it stands, some hours later, i started to experience a bit of pain at wrist.
floxies need to be careful. don’t over exert. learn to let go….!!
I’m just posting here a link discussing the neuroprotective benefits of Curcumin (Turmeric), particularly with respect to fluoride neurotoxicity.
http://www.activistpost.com/2014/04/the-spice-that-prevents-fluoride-from.html?m=1
I don’t even know if in fact it is specifically the fluoride that has damaged us so badly, but I’m always hunting for anything that may help and just wanted to pass this on for others to consider. I have actually already been taking curcumin, (don’t think I’ve noticed a benefitā¦but who knows), but not in nearly as high a dose as suggested by this study (30mg/kg bodyweight).
Healing wishes to everyone.
Hi Destruida,
I hope your eye is well now š
like to send you a song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NUDi5o2u40&list=RD9NUDi5o2u40
Enjoy!
Hi.
I am currently floxed 1 month in, got tested today for neuropathy and had some blood tests done for vitamin deficiencies and am X-ray on my right foot. I am a 23 yr old female. New here and trying to find recovery stories! Any help? The only posts I see are from this month…
Also, has anyone known someone who’s been poisoned by Cipro or a drug related to, had aches and pains at night and was still able to get pregnant and carry a full term pregnancy? please answer ! I Am scared.
Regarding fluorine, i read it will lurk in your deep tissue for at least 1 year. no way at all to detox this creep?
Anyone suffer from itching all over the body? I have just recently started to and I am wondering if it’s caused by the cipro?
Destruida los Restos:
Thank you for your quick response I am happy to hear that!! Planing on have lots of kids here.
Nick:
I suffered from itching all over the first few weeks. It’s gone now.
Dean*
— vertical ridges in fingernails —-
@Jarene @all
Since we talked about “detoxifying herbs”, I want to mention this “vertical ridges in fingernails”. Check whether you have it. To see a picture, google “vertical ridges in fingernails” , or check the picture on Page 66 of “the flox report .pdf version 11 year 2007”.
TCM believes that fingernails is the extending of tendon, while tendon is related to liver.
Thus, need treat liver. TCM recommends :
1, green lemon with the green lemon skins…
2, Wolfberry
3, Acupuncture point: Taichong (on the feet)
4, cry , sweat.
5, sleep during 1AM~2AM (because this is the time that liver does its job)
( Western Medcine does not think so, WM just treat fingernail as fingernail. I do not quite believe in TCM before, but after flox I realized WM cannot always be helpful. In WM, if the lab tests do not show apparent abnormal, then you have no problem. however, apparently, we have problem even though our lab tests are fine.
I am not saying TCM is always right, actually there are too many TCM treatments that cannot be testified by modern science…
)
Hi Bo,
Thanks for sharing with us š
Interesting! You use USANA Poly C to flush, i never thought of that, maybe i should give it a try! Iām taking Poly C with other USANA supplements together after breakfast and dinner. I took 2 each time. so 4 a day.
As for the chinese detox herbs, i took photo and uploaded online. this is so i wonāt leave out anything.
please take a look:
Ingredient listing:
http://postimg.org/image/dp7zvvxsn/
What it does:
http://postimg.org/image/rjx3gx1gd/
I think whether or not chinese herb can detox cipro, itās certainly good to detox regularly so our body can continue to remove any toxins, prevent any more damage, reduce inflammation and promote our body to heal.
So far i only heard Zeolite powder can detox antibiotic. havenāt yet to try. I tried Zeolite in liquid before a small bottle with dropper kind, i think you can forget about this. it works nothing and i quickly finished the mini bottle. then yesterday someone was sharing in facebook Zeolite must be tried in Powder format and some discussed it work for them! just donāt buy the liquid formatā¦.
NAC supplement is useful but USANA didnāt carry NAC and this company believe their mega antioxidant is their prime product, contains way more antioxidant potency than others.
during my initial month, i have used chlorella, MCP to detox. finish a cycle of bottle , didnāt notice a big jump in improvement. i think we might have to try a few more cycle to see resultsā¦slowly.
Help! My anxiety is horrible right now and I can’t handle any supplements due to my stomach being so nauseous!!! Has anyone tried buspar to help anxiety? I know most on here do not want to take any more pharmaceuticals (which I really don’t either) but it is impacting my job and family to an extent I am not comfortable with. I am starting to not be able to function!
Hi Amy,
I’ve had a lot of success with the Sedona method in treating my anxiety. If you are looking for a non-pharmaceutical solution you might give it a try.
Hope you feel better soon,
Lane
@Amy
I know it is difficult, it is painful, and the pain is real. Our hearts go to yours. We all have to experience anxiety and depression. I am a 34 years old man, but I cried several times like a little girl.
“Danger is real, but fear is a choice”.
Believe that you will heal. Since you will heal in future, you do not have be scarified by the present. All that ends well is well.
PS: check the post I put for you under “Lisa’s story”. Have your lab tests done so as to check whether you are having infection. Sometimes it is not infection at all, even though you have UTI-like symptoms.
Have any of you had dental work done since being floxed? I need a filling on one of my teeth, and the doctor said they could either inject Articaine (4%) as a local anesthetic to the gum where the tooth is or inject Mepivacaine into the nerve block. I’m wondering which one to use. Thanks!
Hi all, I was given norfloxacin last year and literally fell apart ever since, I haven’t seen any improvement yet. I was also given a months worth of doxycycline which I finished because I was misdiagnosed as having Lyme disease š I’m 23 I get the feeling of rubber bands snapping burning even my jaw is affected. The scariest thing for me is my joints now clunk :/ has anyone had this that’s gone away, I wasn’t sure norfloxacin could cause this as you usually only see cipro Levaquin, etc. I do push myself I walk I try to do all sorts and it took me months to figure this out so I also was prescribed all sorts of mess my back feels like its ripped to bits and is constantly in spasm! Anyone had these things and got better also my hamstrings are so tight I have tears all round my knees and the skin over them has become paper thin! Anyone out there had similar symptoms and seen improvement I’m young, scared missing out on life right now I’m losing all hope! I can no longer work or anything and worst of it all was I wasn’t even in my own country when I was prescribed this drug, fortunately I made it home before things got this bad, anyone? :'(
@Lillybet
Norfloxacin is fluoroquinolones, so it is basically the same thing as “cipro Levaquin, etc.”
First thing is to avoid NSAIDs and steroids, of course, avoid the other fluoroquinolones.
Second, take several hours to read through the comments and stories in this website.