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I am having a bad day(s). I can not take the pain and cramps and tremors any more. It seems to be spreading, but it has been years since I was given cipro. I had trouble walking any distance for the first couple of years. Now I can appear to have a normal life if I hide the tremors and pain from friends and coworkers. But the pain gets to me and I snap and yell at those who love me most.
I feel like I am losing hope.
Dann
8 years ago
Hello all, I took Cipro back in December had all the horrible reactions took months for me to start to feel like myself and I’m still not 100 percent there. The remaining symptom seems to be anxiety my brain is just not the same. I can’t really be alone anymore it’s scary. I take calm powder magnesium for that. But now recently I’ve noticed I’m very bloated, I don’t know what it’s from. It’s not a UTI. Maybe it’s constipation? Any ideas and or remedies? Brand of probiotic to take?
joanne g
8 years ago
Al and Dan,
I had terrible stomach and brain issues with the shaking and tremors, even my brain was shaking. I seriously didn’t think I could continue to go on like that.
I searched the internet to find something to help heal my stomach issues and found COLOSTRUM!
It wound up helping EVERY symptom I had. All I can say is THANK YOU GOD !!!
Please try it. I’m 80-90% better and I’ve only been on it for 14/15 days.
I posted my progress starting on Feb. 2nd and continued posting every couple days.
I’m 20 months out and know the frustration of another useless supplement, but NOTHING has given me this level of relief and SO FAST!
I tried two different brands; Sovereigh Labs, which includes a ton of information about all the different benefits of Colostrum, and you get more for your money, and Immune-Tree 6. They both work GREAT!
I will forever be thankful for this wonderful healing gift from God.
Jeremy
8 years ago
I haven’t been to this site in ages but I thought I would update. I am 2 years 5 months and 3 days into this. I am still in pain 24/7 and get little to know sleep. That being said I can more, lots more. I was on crutches for almost 9 months. At first I was only able to sit on a stationary bike for about 30 seconds. Slowly I could pedal for a few minutes, later I got an electric mountain bike and over time I was able to pedal more and more. Starting in April I was able to ride without an electric motor. By the end of summer I could keep up with most A level mtn biking on shorter rides. Now I am able to ride for 3-4 hours, though I still have a tough time walking. As an athlete it’s still living hell. I have recently quit my job and focusing on stress reduction, fun and healing. I can know ride my dirt bike on single track and just started snowmobiling again. There is hope, there is light and life is starting to be worth living again. My goals for the next few years are to be able to kite surf again, hopefully back-country skiing and eventually travel. I have only been on an airplane once since this happened and it was rough having an 85 year old man with bowling tattoos pushing me around when just weeks before this happened I could do 24 hour bike rides, kite surf, back country ski, and ride hundreds of miles on single track on my dirt bike.
Anyway, keep on healing everyone. Life is short, enjoy what you can and be patient. For some (me) it takes time, lots and lots of time.
ChristmasCarla
8 years ago
Alcohol … Yes, I read Floxies should stay away from alcohol, but I rarely drink and didn’t think about it. I was feeling so good (thanks, Colustrum!) that I drove a half-hour to go to dinner with my daughter. Ate a non-inflammatory meal: chicken with caper sauce and veggies, and celebrated with a bottle of hard cider. Ouch! An hour later, by the time I got home, my ankle was on fire and nothing seemed to help. Finally eased up some with rinses in cool water and application of coconut oil. Didn’t sleep well, and today I’m doing some detoxing. I started with a cup of hot water with cayenne pepper, apple cider vinegar and honey, and intend to do a liquid fast for the day. I have several detox teas and will set a timer to remind me to hydrate.
Does anyone else have information about detox fasting after Floxing? I used to do it before, but haven’t yet since.
ChristmasCarla
8 years ago
Bruce, I’m no expert, but it seems to me that a natural brewed alcohol, like beer or wine, with the fruit esters and herbal extracts, would be less damaging than distilled alcohol. If it is alcohol that’s causing the problems, putting concentrated alcohol in there doesn’t sound like a good idea.
Mark S
8 years ago
Seven months out today. Feeling pretty well I must say. I have more strength standing for longer periods of time. My mental stuff is generally all resolved. No more terrible anxiety or depression. My heartbeat flutters on occasion but for all intents and purposes, that’s getting back to normal too. Magnesium threonate and malate seem to be doing the trick.
My Achilles tendonosis in my left ankle is still present, but it’s not nearly as bad as it used to be. I can actually sit flat footed at work and not have it bother me. Being sedentary for so long left my hips incredibly weak and have caused knee problems in both legs. Slowly working on rebuilding the legs, which will be a work in progress. This drug caused me my relationship. But you know what? Screw Cipro and screw my ex. I am strong. Present tense. All in all, I am considerably better than i was just a month ago and hope to continue to make strides towards healing.
Mark
Jason
8 years ago
ALCOHOL – Folks, just DON’T if you want to heal.
There are NUMEROUS reasons why this is a VERY VERY bad idea, (like Caffeine too) a crap load, here are just a few:
4) Drinking alcohol will pretty much shut down your methylation and wipe out your Glutathione stores.
10) High levels of acetylaldehyde, this is a potent neurotoxin released by Candida, and also a by-product of drinking alcohol (even red wine). Don’t drink if you’re a poor methylator. Most of you know who you are, meaning you are a lightweight when it comes to alcohol. Yep, it is likely you are a poor methylator.
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There are many many more but really those 2 alone should be enough to not do it
We are a bunch of Under-Methylators here, that is one reason (of potentially up to 10 or so) of WHY we ended up here. Its estimated that ~45% of the population is, I personally estimate that 80 – 95% of all Floxies are.
Being an Under-methylating Floxie has VERY wide-reaching consequences and meanings, a bunch of this will be further explored and explained more in an article Lisa is going to post tomorrow or next day.
ChristmasCarla
8 years ago
Jason, just wanted to say thanks for your patience and caring in reposting information as the subject comes up. Obviously these questions have been discussed repeatedly, but it’s not always easy to find the relevant posts amid the acres of information. Your knowledge is a great benefit to newcomers.
dan
8 years ago
dear jason, i am having bad gut issues. i think its the levaquin seeping through my stomach to where my skin even smells toxic. had ct scan and colonoscopy. also some foods go right through me within minutes after i eat. stress or antibiotic? please help someone. dan.
dan
8 years ago
also have gallstones.
Ned
8 years ago
Hi everyone. I was floxed with cipro 7 months ago, starting 8th and I am still dealing with high anxiety, brain fog and a tight band around the head. The anxiety level makes me agitated and I have difficulty speaking with others without becoming annoyed within a few minutes. Has nothing to do with the other person. I was never this way before and it is very depressing as it effects my relationships with everyone , at work etc. It’s like a form of ocd. I have ocd already but this is over the top. I know some people experience anger after being floxed, a side effect but can anyone relate or offer a suggestion as to what to do. It may be stomach related but how long does this go on for? I hope not permanently. I want to start using colostrum right away.
joanneg
8 years ago
Hi Ned,
I’m 20 months out and dealt with the high anxiety, brain fog, agitation and the extreme head pressure and so much more.
The only thing from that list that went away was the extreme head pressure(after about 12mos). All the rest has continued and has always fluctuated in intensity, and the scale was from extremely debilitating, barely functional to somewhat functional.
After taking the Colostrum and it helping my stomach so much, I definitely believe it’s stomach related. I still have these issues but at a way lower intensity. Using the scale from above, I’d say it goes from functional, very functional, to extremely functional and with less fluctuating.
As far as getting agitated and angry,what I tried to do was stay out of intense conversation and if that’s unavoidable, I’d purposely be very passive, neutral, and agreeable And when I would debate or try to aggressively argue my point, I was the one that suffered. It would flare everything up.
Finally, IT”S NOT PERMANENT! I wouldn’t of felt this way a couple of weeks ago, but since using the Colostrum my symptoms sometime go almost completely away. So, I don’t think it would be able to that if it was permanent.
So I would do whatever you can to heal your stomach starting with Colostrum and a good probiotic, and remember to purposely stay calm because you know what the results will be
And cling to the HOPE you find here, it has gotten me through some very dark days
🙂 Joanne
Jason
8 years ago
I found a post online from someone who has done a bunch of research and it ties MANY things together really well and all relating to the GUT (he refers to IBS specifically because it was an IBS forum BUT it applies to many other things). I’m not completely sure of its total accuracy in every statement but many things are dead on for sure.
Everyone should read this carefully, LINDA many things here should hit home with you in particular, I know you were thinking your Gut is a lot better but I suspect it has a long way to go and this guy’s post ties together some of the reasons I have this suspicion (also you and poor Steph took Steroids with the Cipro which does extra damage to the Gut and IMO why people who take both are often the severely affected ones, too much severe Gut damage)
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MY IBS can effect my brain and my brain can effect my IBS. I have had this conversation with some of the worlds leading experts in IBS. Its physically not possible for gas to effect your brain, except through neurotransmission of nerve fibers in the digestive system. Its also how the system works. Its also what they are finding out in years and years of IBS research. FYI There are very complex connections to the gut and the brain and one part of this is the emotional motor system or Limbic system. This is also connected to the HPA axis or bodies stress system. The bodies stress system is also used to FIGHT INFECTION as well as the fight or flight responce. Constant activation of this system drains the body, like draining the batteries.”Emotion involves the entire nervous system, of course. But there are two parts of the nervous system that are especially significant: The limbic system and the autonomic nervous system.
So the Limbic system (and Emotions) are connected to the autonomic nervous system that helps control digestion, heart rate and breathing among other things. This is one reason why emotions often effect digestion. Even subtle emotions.”The hypothalamus is one of the busiest parts of the brain, and is mainly concerned with homeostasis. Homeostasis is the process of returning something to some “set point.” It works like a thermostat: When your room gets too cold, the thermostat conveys that information to the furnace and turns it on. As your room warms up and the temperature gets beyond a certain point, it sends a signal that tells the furnace to turn off. The hypothalamus is responsible for regulating your hunger, thirst, response to pain, levels of pleasure, sexual satisfaction, anger and aggressive behavior, and more. It also regulates the functioning of the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems, which in turn means it regulates things like pulse, blood pressure, breathing, and arousal in response to emotional circumstances. This is also one reason why a person can get hot and cold chills before an IBS attack as well as dilated pupils, increase heart rate and breathing etc..)
The first is the autonomic nervous system. This allows the hypothalamus to have ultimate control of things like blood pressure, heart-rate, breathing, digestion, sweating, and all the sympathetic and parasympathetic functions. “Importantly it helps regulated “It also regulates the functioning of the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems. This is how it breaks down: Central nervous system, The Autonomic Nervous System, The organs (the “viscera”) of our body, such as the heart, stomach and intestines, are regulated by a part of the nervous system called the autonomic nervous system (ANS). The ANS is part of the peripheral nervous system and it controls many organs and muscles within the body. In most situations, we are unaware of the workings of the ANS because it functions in an involuntary, reflexive manner. For example, we do not notice when blood vessels change size or when our heart beats faster. However, some people can be trained to control some functions of the ANS such as heart rate or blood pressure.
The ANS is most important in two situations: 1. In emergencies that cause stress and require us to “fight” or take “flight” (run away) and 2. In non-emergencies that allow us to “rest” and “digest.”. The ANS is divided into three parts: The sympathetic nervous system, The parasympathetic nervous system and The enteric nervous system. The enteric nervous system is part of the autonomic nervous system and is often now called the “Gut Brain” and has 100 million neurons as many as the spinal cord, so note you have two brains: one in your head and another in your gut. This is really important in IBS and how some of it fits into IBS. This complex network of nerves lines the walls of the digestive tract form the esophagus all the way down to the colon. This little brain in the gut is connected to the big brain by the Vagus nerves, bundles of nerve fibers running from the GI tract to the head. All neurotransmitters, such as serotonin (ME => GABA, etc) that are found in the brain are also present in the gut. Dr Wood has discovered that this little-brain-in-the-gut has programs that are designed for our protection and which are very much like computer programs. They respond to perceived threats in the same way that the limbic system or the emotional brain does. So the threat of a gastrointestinal infection can activate the program that increases gut contractions in order to get rid of the infection. The symptoms are abdominal cramping and diarrhea.
Also importantly there is a cell embedded in the gut wall that is directly connected to the HPA axis and the fight or flight. Dr. Wood has determined that the type of cell found in the body and the gut, called the Mast Cell, is a key to understanding the connection of the big brain in the head with the little-brain-in-the-gut. Mast cells are involved in defense of the body. In response to certain threats or triggers, such as pollen or infection, mast cells release chemicals, such as histamine, that help to fight off the invader. Histamine is one of the chemicals that causes the symptoms of an allergy or a cold. When an infection of the gut occurs, such as food poisoning or gastroenteritis, the mast cells of the gut release histamine. The little-brain-in-the-gut interprets the mast cell signal of histamine release as a threat and calls up a protective program designed to remove the threat at the expense of symptoms: abdominal pain and diarrhea. The brain to mast cell connection has a direct clinical relevance for irritable bowel syndrome and other functional gastrointestinal syndromes. It implies a mechanism for linking allostasis and the good stress response to irritable states (e.g., abdominal pain and diarrhea) of the gut. Mast cells can be activated to release histamine in response to perceived psychological stress, whether the stressor or trigger is consciously perceived or not.
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For anyone wanting to learn more about Mast Cell activation and why it is so important to Floxing, Lisa wrote up an article on it and I have added several comments at the bottom pertaining to it as well (This is now one of them):
So to continue the discussion on colostrum, I came across this article from a doctor who underwent a health crisis that sounds a lot like being floxed after having a surgery. He struggled for a long time and then was healed after beginning colostrum! He wrote this article about colostrum. You can read about his healing journey in the “introduction”. http://www.gotwater.net/colostrum_report.htm
I also started colostrum just two days ago. My symptoms, which have been solely CNS symptoms, have actually flared up in the past couple days. This could be due to a die-off reaction increasing the amount of toxins in my system or I could have had this flare regardless. Hard to say. As long as the symptoms do not intensify too much, i am going to ride it out. From what i have read, the die-off should only last a few days. I’m hopeful!!
Bruce Brannan
8 years ago
Are probiotics and supplements something that floxies will have to take for the rest of their lives???
SM
8 years ago
Joanneg and Others- Well, today is day one of colostrum. That’s a big step for me. Jason and other who know me know I’m not a huge believer in supplements. The positive reviews, however, convinced me it was worth a shot!
Anyone taking magnesium…how much do you take orally? Just curious at how much people are doing?
Hi to everyone
I am newly floxed about 5 months out. Following the recovery ebook etc.
I would like to know if anyone has ear sensitivity and tinnitus issues get better?
I am a sound engineer and suffering with sensitive ears and tinnitus and want some feedback if these things do get better eventually.
I seem to have just CNS issues as I haven’t gotten tendon problems.
I have body and muscle pain, anxiety, insomnia, ear pain and sensitivity and burning, tinnitus, blurry vision.
Looking forward to some feedback and advice.
Wishing everyone well
Thanks
Hi SM
I’m about 15 months out…was in debilitating pain for 7 months getting progressively worse, then recovered to about 90% for a few months. However, I had a bad relapse in December (2015) from eating non organic pork. Lots of returning symptoms: anxiety, insomnia, burning skin, weakness, and horrific feet pain. Although some things have abated, my foot pain is horrible 🙁 i have been to two different doctors this week, both saying that based upon physical exam my tendons or tissues are inflamed, but they don’t think it’s neurapothy despite a slight tingling sensation. My question is, I know you have been suffering from PN (which i hope youre getting better) how does one know if foot pain is from neurapothy or something else? I hope your doing well…take care.
Tricia 🙂
joanneg
8 years ago
SM and Tricia,
Have you tried the Magnesium oil spray? I know there are some people who say it didn’t help, but it ALWAYS helps me,and my feet hurt so bad I could not walk on them.
If you haven’t tried it, I definitely would
I am having a bad day(s). I can not take the pain and cramps and tremors any more. It seems to be spreading, but it has been years since I was given cipro. I had trouble walking any distance for the first couple of years. Now I can appear to have a normal life if I hide the tremors and pain from friends and coworkers. But the pain gets to me and I snap and yell at those who love me most.
I feel like I am losing hope.
Hello all, I took Cipro back in December had all the horrible reactions took months for me to start to feel like myself and I’m still not 100 percent there. The remaining symptom seems to be anxiety my brain is just not the same. I can’t really be alone anymore it’s scary. I take calm powder magnesium for that. But now recently I’ve noticed I’m very bloated, I don’t know what it’s from. It’s not a UTI. Maybe it’s constipation? Any ideas and or remedies? Brand of probiotic to take?
Al and Dan,
I had terrible stomach and brain issues with the shaking and tremors, even my brain was shaking. I seriously didn’t think I could continue to go on like that.
I searched the internet to find something to help heal my stomach issues and found COLOSTRUM!
It wound up helping EVERY symptom I had. All I can say is THANK YOU GOD !!!
Please try it. I’m 80-90% better and I’ve only been on it for 14/15 days.
I posted my progress starting on Feb. 2nd and continued posting every couple days.
I’m 20 months out and know the frustration of another useless supplement, but NOTHING has given me this level of relief and SO FAST!
I tried two different brands; Sovereigh Labs, which includes a ton of information about all the different benefits of Colostrum, and you get more for your money, and Immune-Tree 6. They both work GREAT!
I will forever be thankful for this wonderful healing gift from God.
I haven’t been to this site in ages but I thought I would update. I am 2 years 5 months and 3 days into this. I am still in pain 24/7 and get little to know sleep. That being said I can more, lots more. I was on crutches for almost 9 months. At first I was only able to sit on a stationary bike for about 30 seconds. Slowly I could pedal for a few minutes, later I got an electric mountain bike and over time I was able to pedal more and more. Starting in April I was able to ride without an electric motor. By the end of summer I could keep up with most A level mtn biking on shorter rides. Now I am able to ride for 3-4 hours, though I still have a tough time walking. As an athlete it’s still living hell. I have recently quit my job and focusing on stress reduction, fun and healing. I can know ride my dirt bike on single track and just started snowmobiling again. There is hope, there is light and life is starting to be worth living again. My goals for the next few years are to be able to kite surf again, hopefully back-country skiing and eventually travel. I have only been on an airplane once since this happened and it was rough having an 85 year old man with bowling tattoos pushing me around when just weeks before this happened I could do 24 hour bike rides, kite surf, back country ski, and ride hundreds of miles on single track on my dirt bike.
Anyway, keep on healing everyone. Life is short, enjoy what you can and be patient. For some (me) it takes time, lots and lots of time.
Alcohol … Yes, I read Floxies should stay away from alcohol, but I rarely drink and didn’t think about it. I was feeling so good (thanks, Colustrum!) that I drove a half-hour to go to dinner with my daughter. Ate a non-inflammatory meal: chicken with caper sauce and veggies, and celebrated with a bottle of hard cider. Ouch! An hour later, by the time I got home, my ankle was on fire and nothing seemed to help. Finally eased up some with rinses in cool water and application of coconut oil. Didn’t sleep well, and today I’m doing some detoxing. I started with a cup of hot water with cayenne pepper, apple cider vinegar and honey, and intend to do a liquid fast for the day. I have several detox teas and will set a timer to remind me to hydrate.
Does anyone else have information about detox fasting after Floxing? I used to do it before, but haven’t yet since.
Bruce, I’m no expert, but it seems to me that a natural brewed alcohol, like beer or wine, with the fruit esters and herbal extracts, would be less damaging than distilled alcohol. If it is alcohol that’s causing the problems, putting concentrated alcohol in there doesn’t sound like a good idea.
Seven months out today. Feeling pretty well I must say. I have more strength standing for longer periods of time. My mental stuff is generally all resolved. No more terrible anxiety or depression. My heartbeat flutters on occasion but for all intents and purposes, that’s getting back to normal too. Magnesium threonate and malate seem to be doing the trick.
My Achilles tendonosis in my left ankle is still present, but it’s not nearly as bad as it used to be. I can actually sit flat footed at work and not have it bother me. Being sedentary for so long left my hips incredibly weak and have caused knee problems in both legs. Slowly working on rebuilding the legs, which will be a work in progress. This drug caused me my relationship. But you know what? Screw Cipro and screw my ex. I am strong. Present tense. All in all, I am considerably better than i was just a month ago and hope to continue to make strides towards healing.
Mark
ALCOHOL – Folks, just DON’T if you want to heal.
There are NUMEROUS reasons why this is a VERY VERY bad idea, (like Caffeine too) a crap load, here are just a few:
http://suzycohen.com/articles/methylation-problems/
4) Drinking alcohol will pretty much shut down your methylation and wipe out your Glutathione stores.
10) High levels of acetylaldehyde, this is a potent neurotoxin released by Candida, and also a by-product of drinking alcohol (even red wine). Don’t drink if you’re a poor methylator. Most of you know who you are, meaning you are a lightweight when it comes to alcohol. Yep, it is likely you are a poor methylator.
=========
There are many many more but really those 2 alone should be enough to not do it
We are a bunch of Under-Methylators here, that is one reason (of potentially up to 10 or so) of WHY we ended up here. Its estimated that ~45% of the population is, I personally estimate that 80 – 95% of all Floxies are.
Being an Under-methylating Floxie has VERY wide-reaching consequences and meanings, a bunch of this will be further explored and explained more in an article Lisa is going to post tomorrow or next day.
Jason, just wanted to say thanks for your patience and caring in reposting information as the subject comes up. Obviously these questions have been discussed repeatedly, but it’s not always easy to find the relevant posts amid the acres of information. Your knowledge is a great benefit to newcomers.
dear jason, i am having bad gut issues. i think its the levaquin seeping through my stomach to where my skin even smells toxic. had ct scan and colonoscopy. also some foods go right through me within minutes after i eat. stress or antibiotic? please help someone. dan.
also have gallstones.
Hi everyone. I was floxed with cipro 7 months ago, starting 8th and I am still dealing with high anxiety, brain fog and a tight band around the head. The anxiety level makes me agitated and I have difficulty speaking with others without becoming annoyed within a few minutes. Has nothing to do with the other person. I was never this way before and it is very depressing as it effects my relationships with everyone , at work etc. It’s like a form of ocd. I have ocd already but this is over the top. I know some people experience anger after being floxed, a side effect but can anyone relate or offer a suggestion as to what to do. It may be stomach related but how long does this go on for? I hope not permanently. I want to start using colostrum right away.
Hi Ned,
I’m 20 months out and dealt with the high anxiety, brain fog, agitation and the extreme head pressure and so much more.
The only thing from that list that went away was the extreme head pressure(after about 12mos). All the rest has continued and has always fluctuated in intensity, and the scale was from extremely debilitating, barely functional to somewhat functional.
After taking the Colostrum and it helping my stomach so much, I definitely believe it’s stomach related. I still have these issues but at a way lower intensity. Using the scale from above, I’d say it goes from functional, very functional, to extremely functional and with less fluctuating.
As far as getting agitated and angry,what I tried to do was stay out of intense conversation and if that’s unavoidable, I’d purposely be very passive, neutral, and agreeable And when I would debate or try to aggressively argue my point, I was the one that suffered. It would flare everything up.
Finally, IT”S NOT PERMANENT! I wouldn’t of felt this way a couple of weeks ago, but since using the Colostrum my symptoms sometime go almost completely away. So, I don’t think it would be able to that if it was permanent.
So I would do whatever you can to heal your stomach starting with Colostrum and a good probiotic, and remember to purposely stay calm because you know what the results will be
And cling to the HOPE you find here, it has gotten me through some very dark days
🙂 Joanne
I found a post online from someone who has done a bunch of research and it ties MANY things together really well and all relating to the GUT (he refers to IBS specifically because it was an IBS forum BUT it applies to many other things). I’m not completely sure of its total accuracy in every statement but many things are dead on for sure.
Everyone should read this carefully, LINDA many things here should hit home with you in particular, I know you were thinking your Gut is a lot better but I suspect it has a long way to go and this guy’s post ties together some of the reasons I have this suspicion (also you and poor Steph took Steroids with the Cipro which does extra damage to the Gut and IMO why people who take both are often the severely affected ones, too much severe Gut damage)
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MY IBS can effect my brain and my brain can effect my IBS. I have had this conversation with some of the worlds leading experts in IBS. Its physically not possible for gas to effect your brain, except through neurotransmission of nerve fibers in the digestive system. Its also how the system works. Its also what they are finding out in years and years of IBS research. FYI There are very complex connections to the gut and the brain and one part of this is the emotional motor system or Limbic system. This is also connected to the HPA axis or bodies stress system. The bodies stress system is also used to FIGHT INFECTION as well as the fight or flight responce. Constant activation of this system drains the body, like draining the batteries.”Emotion involves the entire nervous system, of course. But there are two parts of the nervous system that are especially significant: The limbic system and the autonomic nervous system.
So the Limbic system (and Emotions) are connected to the autonomic nervous system that helps control digestion, heart rate and breathing among other things. This is one reason why emotions often effect digestion. Even subtle emotions.”The hypothalamus is one of the busiest parts of the brain, and is mainly concerned with homeostasis. Homeostasis is the process of returning something to some “set point.” It works like a thermostat: When your room gets too cold, the thermostat conveys that information to the furnace and turns it on. As your room warms up and the temperature gets beyond a certain point, it sends a signal that tells the furnace to turn off. The hypothalamus is responsible for regulating your hunger, thirst, response to pain, levels of pleasure, sexual satisfaction, anger and aggressive behavior, and more. It also regulates the functioning of the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems, which in turn means it regulates things like pulse, blood pressure, breathing, and arousal in response to emotional circumstances. This is also one reason why a person can get hot and cold chills before an IBS attack as well as dilated pupils, increase heart rate and breathing etc..)
The first is the autonomic nervous system. This allows the hypothalamus to have ultimate control of things like blood pressure, heart-rate, breathing, digestion, sweating, and all the sympathetic and parasympathetic functions. “Importantly it helps regulated “It also regulates the functioning of the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems. This is how it breaks down: Central nervous system, The Autonomic Nervous System, The organs (the “viscera”) of our body, such as the heart, stomach and intestines, are regulated by a part of the nervous system called the autonomic nervous system (ANS). The ANS is part of the peripheral nervous system and it controls many organs and muscles within the body. In most situations, we are unaware of the workings of the ANS because it functions in an involuntary, reflexive manner. For example, we do not notice when blood vessels change size or when our heart beats faster. However, some people can be trained to control some functions of the ANS such as heart rate or blood pressure.
The ANS is most important in two situations: 1. In emergencies that cause stress and require us to “fight” or take “flight” (run away) and 2. In non-emergencies that allow us to “rest” and “digest.”. The ANS is divided into three parts: The sympathetic nervous system, The parasympathetic nervous system and The enteric nervous system. The enteric nervous system is part of the autonomic nervous system and is often now called the “Gut Brain” and has 100 million neurons as many as the spinal cord, so note you have two brains: one in your head and another in your gut. This is really important in IBS and how some of it fits into IBS. This complex network of nerves lines the walls of the digestive tract form the esophagus all the way down to the colon. This little brain in the gut is connected to the big brain by the Vagus nerves, bundles of nerve fibers running from the GI tract to the head. All neurotransmitters, such as serotonin (ME => GABA, etc) that are found in the brain are also present in the gut. Dr Wood has discovered that this little-brain-in-the-gut has programs that are designed for our protection and which are very much like computer programs. They respond to perceived threats in the same way that the limbic system or the emotional brain does. So the threat of a gastrointestinal infection can activate the program that increases gut contractions in order to get rid of the infection. The symptoms are abdominal cramping and diarrhea.
Also importantly there is a cell embedded in the gut wall that is directly connected to the HPA axis and the fight or flight. Dr. Wood has determined that the type of cell found in the body and the gut, called the Mast Cell, is a key to understanding the connection of the big brain in the head with the little-brain-in-the-gut. Mast cells are involved in defense of the body. In response to certain threats or triggers, such as pollen or infection, mast cells release chemicals, such as histamine, that help to fight off the invader. Histamine is one of the chemicals that causes the symptoms of an allergy or a cold. When an infection of the gut occurs, such as food poisoning or gastroenteritis, the mast cells of the gut release histamine. The little-brain-in-the-gut interprets the mast cell signal of histamine release as a threat and calls up a protective program designed to remove the threat at the expense of symptoms: abdominal pain and diarrhea. The brain to mast cell connection has a direct clinical relevance for irritable bowel syndrome and other functional gastrointestinal syndromes. It implies a mechanism for linking allostasis and the good stress response to irritable states (e.g., abdominal pain and diarrhea) of the gut. Mast cells can be activated to release histamine in response to perceived psychological stress, whether the stressor or trigger is consciously perceived or not.
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For anyone wanting to learn more about Mast Cell activation and why it is so important to Floxing, Lisa wrote up an article on it and I have added several comments at the bottom pertaining to it as well (This is now one of them):
https://floxiehope.com/2015/10/01/can-fluoroquinolones-activate-mast-cells/
So to continue the discussion on colostrum, I came across this article from a doctor who underwent a health crisis that sounds a lot like being floxed after having a surgery. He struggled for a long time and then was healed after beginning colostrum! He wrote this article about colostrum. You can read about his healing journey in the “introduction”. http://www.gotwater.net/colostrum_report.htm
I also started colostrum just two days ago. My symptoms, which have been solely CNS symptoms, have actually flared up in the past couple days. This could be due to a die-off reaction increasing the amount of toxins in my system or I could have had this flare regardless. Hard to say. As long as the symptoms do not intensify too much, i am going to ride it out. From what i have read, the die-off should only last a few days. I’m hopeful!!
Are probiotics and supplements something that floxies will have to take for the rest of their lives???
Joanneg and Others- Well, today is day one of colostrum. That’s a big step for me. Jason and other who know me know I’m not a huge believer in supplements. The positive reviews, however, convinced me it was worth a shot!
Anyone taking magnesium…how much do you take orally? Just curious at how much people are doing?
Thanks.
Hi to everyone
I am newly floxed about 5 months out. Following the recovery ebook etc.
I would like to know if anyone has ear sensitivity and tinnitus issues get better?
I am a sound engineer and suffering with sensitive ears and tinnitus and want some feedback if these things do get better eventually.
I seem to have just CNS issues as I haven’t gotten tendon problems.
I have body and muscle pain, anxiety, insomnia, ear pain and sensitivity and burning, tinnitus, blurry vision.
Looking forward to some feedback and advice.
Wishing everyone well
Thanks
Hi SM
I’m about 15 months out…was in debilitating pain for 7 months getting progressively worse, then recovered to about 90% for a few months. However, I had a bad relapse in December (2015) from eating non organic pork. Lots of returning symptoms: anxiety, insomnia, burning skin, weakness, and horrific feet pain. Although some things have abated, my foot pain is horrible 🙁 i have been to two different doctors this week, both saying that based upon physical exam my tendons or tissues are inflamed, but they don’t think it’s neurapothy despite a slight tingling sensation. My question is, I know you have been suffering from PN (which i hope youre getting better) how does one know if foot pain is from neurapothy or something else? I hope your doing well…take care.
Tricia 🙂
SM and Tricia,
Have you tried the Magnesium oil spray? I know there are some people who say it didn’t help, but it ALWAYS helps me,and my feet hurt so bad I could not walk on them.
If you haven’t tried it, I definitely would