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Jane
8 years ago
Well I have a sinus infection and have tried everything. I need meds, can’t take a chance letting it go…and I’m so worried what they’ll try to give me. I do know that I’ve already documented in my medical chart that under no circumstances will I take fluoroquinolones. I guess that’s the only thing helping…..
Erin
8 years ago
I have kind of a question for everyone who has been floxed. We have a lot of restrictions now. No steroids, no meat with antibiotics, NO fqs ever again,no to most antibiotics, no to a lot of other pharmaceuticals that can make our situations even worse, and a whole bunch of other things. How do you guys deal with that? A few weeks after I was floxed I ate chicken and had a relapse of pain in both my achilles tendons and could barely walk for days. Chicken! I mean come on! I have been talking to someone who took cipro 3 months ago and had only mental problems and NO physical problems, the other day he used a cream with a steroid in it and bam all of a sudden he has muscle and tendon aches. It was 3 MONTHS after taking the cipro! I don’t understand what the future holds for us. I’m only 17 years old and I am terrified of ever having any health issues because I’m afraid anything a doctor gives me will hurt me even worse than I have already been hurt. I currently have UTI and I just keep thinking I’ll have no choice but to take some antibiotic that will put me right back where I started. I have nightmares over going to the dentist and being given a flouride treatment without my knowledge. I have nightmares that I’ll need a surgery and be given another fq while I’m unconscious. How have you guys dealt with these restrictions and how do you deal with the fear? Sorry for ranting but I would like to hear what others have to say on this.
At the end of the day at least WE are aware, & we CAN now do something about this, & look after ourselves. The majority of the world, they actually do NOT have clue what’s going on in allopathic ‘ care’ .nor do they know what is going on ‘ under the radar ‘ elsewhere, so they continue poisoning themselves day after day in various ways.
I can now do various things to help myself, & protect myself. I consider myself lucky in that respect, actually very lucky indeed.
Ryan L
8 years ago
Some good news for floxies living in India. It appears that there are two different medicinal products that contain the bacterial strain OXALOBACTER FORMIGENES! Those who’ve been here a while know that this bacterial strain has been wiped out in many floxies and that currently there are no known probiotic supplements on the market that contain it. If you’re unfamiliar with how this bacterial strain plays into floxing, please read the article Lisa posted on it which can be found in the first link below. The other two links are for the products that India has that contain O. Formigenes.
I just emailed Obama, regarding my disgust, rage, really, over having to suffer, to my death, for MArgaret Hamburgs evil greed, and, I think every floxxed person, should do the same, daily email him. We should also be tweeting, like mAd, re, this hitler like, mass murdering goon,
veteran floxie
8 years ago
The system is rigged, the highjacking of medical schools began when Rockerfeller sent his infiltrators at the turn of the last century into the major medical schools to take out all education that was not allopathic, what we have today is not medicine, it is a mafia run by psychopaths, do not kid yourselves people, beware and be careful, ask a lot of questions.
veteran floxie
8 years ago
B12 is very potent in the restoration of all different tissues, be they damaged by age, chronic illness, operations, degeneratve diseases, intoxications or by other means-quote.
Dr. Max Gerson. A cancer therapy, 50 cases of advanced cancer cured by diet therapy.
veteran floxie
8 years ago
Cyanocobalamin is a cheap, synthetic chemical made in a laboratory. It’s virtually impossible for you to find this form in nature. Low-end vitamin manufacturers use it because it can be bought in bulk and added to products with claims that they “contain vitamin B-12!” What they don’t tell you is that the vitamin is bound to a toxic, poisonous cyanide molecule that must then be removed from your body by your liver.
The proper form of vitamin B-12 to supplement is called methylcobalamin. This is the form that exists in nature, and it is pre-methylated, meaning it’s ready for your biochemistry to put to immediate use. Methylcobalamin has several key advantages over cyanocobalamin:
* Increased absorption
* Better retention in tissues
* Contains no toxic cyanide
* Supports production of SAMe
As explained by Ed Sharpe:
“The coenzyme form of vitamin B12 is known as methylcobalamin or methyl B12. It’s the only form of vitamin B12 which can directly participate in homocysteine metabolism. In addition, converting homocysteine to methionine via methyl B12 generates an increased supply of SAMe (S-adenosyl methionine), the body’s most important methyl donor.” (http://www.health101.org/art_methylcobalamin…)
Taurine and other inhibitory nutrients
By nutrientscure
I was asked in an egroup whether I found the amino acid taurine useful. What follows is my response to this question of “is taurine useful to you?”.
Dear group:
Yes, I have found taurine very useful, and so has my son Willy.
I believe that taurine is one of the most inhibitory amino acids, if not the most inhibitory, for most persons that take it.
I first began to take taurine in August of 1997, and it greatly helped me to resolve a Klonopin addiction and go to sleep. Three 500 mg. capsules of taurine enabled me to reduce my Klonopin dosage from 2 mg. to .5 mg within a matter of a few weeks. However, when I first took four capsules of taurine to try to get off Klonopin completely, I found that it was too much for me and I just got a big headache the next day.
Incidentally, as “my brain changed” over the years, I later found that I could readily take four capsules of taurine without getting any headache whatsoever, despite the fact that I definitely could not take such a dose when I first began using taurine in 1997. I also later found that when I did get a headache from taurine or anything else, that phosphatidyl choline greatly helped me in regard to headache resolution. (I consider phosphatidyl choline as being better than aspirin or Tylenol in this regard, and my son Willy feels the same way.)
In September of 1997, I had added tryptophan, GABA, and glycine to my nutrient mix for sleep, rather than just using taurine all by itself. It took me about a month to get completely off of Klonopin (which I had used on a daily basis for eighteen months prior, and was clearly addicted to). I also threw in some methionine in the fall of 1997 or the winter of 1998 as well. Methionine is neither inhibitory or excitatory in me, but I had determined by simple trial that it helped me a little, and thus I knew I needed it.
My common bedtime nutrient cocktail for years beginning in the fall of 1997 was 1.5 grams each of tryptophan, taurine, GABA, and methionine, as well as 2.5 grams of glycine (as glycine was such a weak inhibitor for me, I put a bit more of it in my night baggie). I also used a 50 mg. B complex vitamin, 2,000 or 3,000 mg. of vitamin C, and two or three capules of phosphatidyl choline in my night baggie as well. In addition to this, I also put in three capsules of cal/mag/vitamin D (representing about 50% RDA), to get some inhibitory minerals into the mix. Sometimes I put in a gram of inositol as well. Later I also put in 1.5 grams of histidine, as I had found that this amino acid slowed me down too.
I have taken at least 1,200 bedtime baggies of inhibitory nutrients over the years, all very similar to what is listed above. In every instance, this inhibitory nutrient regime helped me to go to sleep, to stay asleep, and it helped with the quality of my sleep as well.
In my opinion, combining inhibitory nutrients such as is detailed above simply “blows away” any medication used for sleep that is on the market, whether it is prescription or it is over-the-counter. Why take a toxic and often addictive medication for sleep vs. taking a combination of inhibitory nutrients? A severe deficiency of inhibitory nutrients of some sort is the real reason most persons have a serious problem with sleep in the first place… and no medication can correct such a complex nutrient deficiency, no matter what the doctors and the drug companies say.
Obviously, the bedtime inhibitory nutrient regime listed above is not for everyone. People do react differently to various amino acids, and they do react differently to other nutrients as well. Only the person taking individual amino acids can determine what helps them or not from the standpoint of inhibition, and only the person taking individual amino acids can best determine the proper dosage for themselves as well. (In regard to dosage, the general safety rule is dose up slowly one capsule at a time, while monitoring effect in yourself… and make whatever adjustments are needed accordingly.)
At one point or another in the late 1990′s, I did isolate on taking every single nutrient in my night baggie on an individual basis to see how it effected me one way or the other. My goal here was to find all of my inhibitory nutrients, and then combine them all together and take them all at once for greatest effect. I was doing this due to the fact that I had a severe problem with sleep for decades. Using a combination of inhibitory nutrients did resolve my longstanding problem with sleep. And getting a good night’s sleep did a great deal for me in regard to curing myself of over three decades of symptoms of manic depression.
It might be worthy to note here that for some persons using a B complex vitamin is excitatory, and therefore it should be left out of any bedtime supplement regime.
My son Willy used a gram of taurine for a few years at bedtime to go to sleep. I don’t know offhand if he is still using it, but I do know that he has used taurine often and for a rather long time, and he has found it quite helpful. (Tryptophan is excitatory for Willy; it acts in reverse of the norm, this is sometimes called a paradoxical reaction. I would have told him to combine at least taurine and tryptophan for sleep, but he could not use tryptophan, and taurine seemed to be enough for him to “do the job” that he intended, which was to go to sleep and sleep well.)
Willy’s baggie does contain one or two capsules of taurine. Although this baggie is not taken at bedtime, I thought that this was perhaps worthy of mention here as well.
Perhaps worthy to note here is that Margot Kidder identified and used tryptophan, taurine, and GABA for sleep on her own years ago… and we had apparently reached these same conclusions independently of each other. She uses 1,000 mg. amounts of each, and I use 1,500 mg. amounts. (Margot Kidder’s suggestions on amino acids can be found on http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/ … ipolar.htm I should mention that this material is quite old; Margot may have learned “better” since then.)
Also perhaps worthy to note here is that on a completely unsolicited basis I sent an almost thirty page email to Julia Ross in the winter of 1998, detailing all I knew about the use of tryptophan, taurine, GABA, and glycine for sleep, as well as all I knew about carnitine and phoshatidyl choline slowing down the brain, all I knew about the use of tyrosine, phenylalanine, etc. I never got any response whatsoever from Julia Ross to this email.
Although the use of inhibitory nutrients as discussed in this blog, and in a prior blog titled “An egroup post on using lithium vs. raising acetylcholine” can be very useful when dealing with problematic sleep issues and/or hypomania, the use of only a handful of specific nutrients such as this is not the right approach to dealing with illnesses such as depression or bipolar disorder. Broad based supplementation, such as is in “Willy’s baggie” is a far more correct healing approach…. especially when it is coupled with dealing with one’s common malabsorptive causes (such as hidden food allergies, candida, etc., etc.) at the same time.
Allen
Three other blogs on inhibitory nutrients and/or sleep that are related to this one can be found at:
1. Two egroup posts on inhibitory nutrients written in 2003 http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-Kgb7fcYw … cq=1&p=260
2. An egroup post on using lithium vs. raising acetylcholine http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-Kgb7fcYw … cq=1&p=301
3. An egroup post I wrote in 2005 on sleep http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-Kgb7fcYw … cq=1&p=251
Taurine and other inhibitory nutrients
By nutrientscure
I was asked in an egroup whether I found the amino acid taurine useful. What follows is my response to this question of “is taurine useful to you?”.
Dear group:
Yes, I have found taurine very useful, and so has my son Willy.
I believe that taurine is one of the most inhibitory amino acids, if not the most inhibitory, for most persons that take it.
I first began to take taurine in August of 1997, and it greatly helped me to resolve a Klonopin addiction and go to sleep. Three 500 mg. capsules of taurine enabled me to reduce my Klonopin dosage from 2 mg. to .5 mg within a matter of a few weeks. However, when I first took four capsules of taurine to try to get off Klonopin completely, I found that it was too much for me and I just got a big headache the next day.
Incidentally, as “my brain changed” over the years, I later found that I could readily take four capsules of taurine without getting any headache whatsoever, despite the fact that I definitely could not take such a dose when I first began using taurine in 1997. I also later found that when I did get a headache from taurine or anything else, that phosphatidyl choline greatly helped me in regard to headache resolution. (I consider phosphatidyl choline as being better than aspirin or Tylenol in this regard, and my son Willy feels the same way.)
In September of 1997, I had added tryptophan, GABA, and glycine to my nutrient mix for sleep, rather than just using taurine all by itself. It took me about a month to get completely off of Klonopin (which I had used on a daily basis for eighteen months prior, and was clearly addicted to). I also threw in some methionine in the fall of 1997 or the winter of 1998 as well. Methionine is neither inhibitory or excitatory in me, but I had determined by simple trial that it helped me a little, and thus I knew I needed it.
My common bedtime nutrient cocktail for years beginning in the fall of 1997 was 1.5 grams each of tryptophan, taurine, GABA, and methionine, as well as 2.5 grams of glycine (as glycine was such a weak inhibitor for me, I put a bit more of it in my night baggie). I also used a 50 mg. B complex vitamin, 2,000 or 3,000 mg. of vitamin C, and two or three capules of phosphatidyl choline in my night baggie as well. In addition to this, I also put in three capsules of cal/mag/vitamin D (representing about 50% RDA), to get some inhibitory minerals into the mix. Sometimes I put in a gram of inositol as well. Later I also put in 1.5 grams of histidine, as I had found that this amino acid slowed me down too.
I have taken at least 1,200 bedtime baggies of inhibitory nutrients over the years, all very similar to what is listed above. In every instance, this inhibitory nutrient regime helped me to go to sleep, to stay asleep, and it helped with the quality of my sleep as well.
In my opinion, combining inhibitory nutrients such as is detailed above simply “blows away” any medication used for sleep that is on the market, whether it is prescription or it is over-the-counter. Why take a toxic and often addictive medication for sleep vs. taking a combination of inhibitory nutrients? A severe deficiency of inhibitory nutrients of some sort is the real reason most persons have a serious problem with sleep in the first place… and no medication can correct such a complex nutrient deficiency, no matter what the doctors and the drug companies say.
Obviously, the bedtime inhibitory nutrient regime listed above is not for everyone. People do react differently to various amino acids, and they do react differently to other nutrients as well. Only the person taking individual amino acids can determine what helps them or not from the standpoint of inhibition, and only the person taking individual amino acids can best determine the proper dosage for themselves as well. (In regard to dosage, the general safety rule is dose up slowly one capsule at a time, while monitoring effect in yourself… and make whatever adjustments are needed accordingly.)
At one point or another in the late 1990′s, I did isolate on taking every single nutrient in my night baggie on an individual basis to see how it effected me one way or the other. My goal here was to find all of my inhibitory nutrients, and then combine them all together and take them all at once for greatest effect. I was doing this due to the fact that I had a severe problem with sleep for decades. Using a combination of inhibitory nutrients did resolve my longstanding problem with sleep. And getting a good night’s sleep did a great deal for me in regard to curing myself of over three decades of symptoms of manic depression.
It might be worthy to note here that for some persons using a B complex vitamin is excitatory, and therefore it should be left out of any bedtime supplement regime.
My son Willy used a gram of taurine for a few years at bedtime to go to sleep. I don’t know offhand if he is still using it, but I do know that he has used taurine often and for a rather long time, and he has found it quite helpful. (Tryptophan is excitatory for Willy; it acts in reverse of the norm, this is sometimes called a paradoxical reaction. I would have told him to combine at least taurine and tryptophan for sleep, but he could not use tryptophan, and taurine seemed to be enough for him to “do the job” that he intended, which was to go to sleep and sleep well.)
Willy’s baggie does contain one or two capsules of taurine. Although this baggie is not taken at bedtime, I thought that this was perhaps worthy of mention here as well.
Perhaps worthy to note here is that Margot Kidder identified and used tryptophan, taurine, and GABA for sleep on her own years ago… and we had apparently reached these same conclusions independently of each other. She uses 1,000 mg. amounts of each, and I use 1,500 mg. amounts. (Margot Kidder’s suggestions on amino acids can be found on http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/ … ipolar.htm I should mention that this material is quite old; Margot may have learned “better” since then.)
Also perhaps worthy to note here is that on a completely unsolicited basis I sent an almost thirty page email to Julia Ross in the winter of 1998, detailing all I knew about the use of tryptophan, taurine, GABA, and glycine for sleep, as well as all I knew about carnitine and phoshatidyl choline slowing down the brain, all I knew about the use of tyrosine, phenylalanine, etc. I never got any response whatsoever from Julia Ross to this email.
Although the use of inhibitory nutrients as discussed in this blog, and in a prior blog titled “An egroup post on using lithium vs. raising acetylcholine” can be very useful when dealing with problematic sleep issues and/or hypomania, the use of only a handful of specific nutrients such as this is not the right approach to dealing with illnesses such as depression or bipolar disorder. Broad based supplementation, such as is in “Willy’s baggie” is a far more correct healing approach…. especially when it is coupled with dealing with one’s common malabsorptive causes (such as hidden food allergies, candida, etc., etc.) at the same time.
Allen
Three other blogs on inhibitory nutrients and/or sleep that are related to this one can be found at:
1. Two egroup posts on inhibitory nutrients written in 2003 http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-Kgb7fcYw … cq=1&p=260
2. An egroup post on using lithium vs. raising acetylcholine http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-Kgb7fcYw … cq=1&p=301
3. An egroup post I wrote in 2005 on sleep http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-Kgb7fcYw … cq=1&p=251
Anyone know what is best to knock a cold out?? I’m scared to take anything.
S
8 years ago
Please tell me there are people who’s symptoms go away shortly after stopping this drug! Is there any hope of this happening? Everything I’m reading sounds like it takes months or years to recover if at all. Are there people who have had their muscular pain disappear shortly after stopping? I’ve had 5 Ciprofloxacin pills. It wasn’t until last night that I realized the sudden and severe pain radiating from my neck down through my shoulder and wrist was due to this drug. I have a nasty respiratory infection, which makes it all the worse because I want to cry every time I have to cough now due to the pain I’m in. I have to turn my entire body to look around since my neck is in so much pain. Do these symptoms disappear for people shortly after stopping the medicine? Does this mean I’ve torn a tendon in my neck and shoulder?
veteran floxie
8 years ago
I would add digestive enzymes to the list, green foods in general are good because they provide magnesium, sweet potatoes provide potassium.
Well I have a sinus infection and have tried everything. I need meds, can’t take a chance letting it go…and I’m so worried what they’ll try to give me. I do know that I’ve already documented in my medical chart that under no circumstances will I take fluoroquinolones. I guess that’s the only thing helping…..
I have kind of a question for everyone who has been floxed. We have a lot of restrictions now. No steroids, no meat with antibiotics, NO fqs ever again,no to most antibiotics, no to a lot of other pharmaceuticals that can make our situations even worse, and a whole bunch of other things. How do you guys deal with that? A few weeks after I was floxed I ate chicken and had a relapse of pain in both my achilles tendons and could barely walk for days. Chicken! I mean come on! I have been talking to someone who took cipro 3 months ago and had only mental problems and NO physical problems, the other day he used a cream with a steroid in it and bam all of a sudden he has muscle and tendon aches. It was 3 MONTHS after taking the cipro! I don’t understand what the future holds for us. I’m only 17 years old and I am terrified of ever having any health issues because I’m afraid anything a doctor gives me will hurt me even worse than I have already been hurt. I currently have UTI and I just keep thinking I’ll have no choice but to take some antibiotic that will put me right back where I started. I have nightmares over going to the dentist and being given a flouride treatment without my knowledge. I have nightmares that I’ll need a surgery and be given another fq while I’m unconscious. How have you guys dealt with these restrictions and how do you deal with the fear? Sorry for ranting but I would like to hear what others have to say on this.
Note Macrobid has a rating very simjlar to FQs
http://www.askapatient.com/viewrating.asp?drug=20064&name=MACROBID
the UK story of Bactrim
http://briandeer.com/bactrim-septra.htm
Flagyl
https://www.drugs.com/pro/flagyl.html
Colonoscopies etc , the cleaning of the various ‘ scopes ‘ actually leaves a LOT to be desired .
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/12/06/endoscope-sterilization.aspx
http://drsircus.com/medicine/poison-your-mitochondria-with-pharmaceuticals/
Fluoride
http://fluoridealert.org/issues/health/
At the end of the day at least WE are aware, & we CAN now do something about this, & look after ourselves. The majority of the world, they actually do NOT have clue what’s going on in allopathic ‘ care’ .nor do they know what is going on ‘ under the radar ‘ elsewhere, so they continue poisoning themselves day after day in various ways.
I can now do various things to help myself, & protect myself. I consider myself lucky in that respect, actually very lucky indeed.
Some good news for floxies living in India. It appears that there are two different medicinal products that contain the bacterial strain OXALOBACTER FORMIGENES! Those who’ve been here a while know that this bacterial strain has been wiped out in many floxies and that currently there are no known probiotic supplements on the market that contain it. If you’re unfamiliar with how this bacterial strain plays into floxing, please read the article Lisa posted on it which can be found in the first link below. The other two links are for the products that India has that contain O. Formigenes.
Fluoroquinolone Antibiotics and Oxalate Overload
https://floxiehope.com/tag/oxalobacter-formigenes/
Oxalobact
http://www.netmeds.com/prescriptions/oxalobact/cap
Oxalo
http://www.indiamart.com/proddetail/oxalo-capsules-5057544333.html
I just emailed Obama, regarding my disgust, rage, really, over having to suffer, to my death, for MArgaret Hamburgs evil greed, and, I think every floxxed person, should do the same, daily email him. We should also be tweeting, like mAd, re, this hitler like, mass murdering goon,
The system is rigged, the highjacking of medical schools began when Rockerfeller sent his infiltrators at the turn of the last century into the major medical schools to take out all education that was not allopathic, what we have today is not medicine, it is a mafia run by psychopaths, do not kid yourselves people, beware and be careful, ask a lot of questions.
B12 is very potent in the restoration of all different tissues, be they damaged by age, chronic illness, operations, degeneratve diseases, intoxications or by other means-quote.
Dr. Max Gerson. A cancer therapy, 50 cases of advanced cancer cured by diet therapy.
Cyanocobalamin is a cheap, synthetic chemical made in a laboratory. It’s virtually impossible for you to find this form in nature. Low-end vitamin manufacturers use it because it can be bought in bulk and added to products with claims that they “contain vitamin B-12!” What they don’t tell you is that the vitamin is bound to a toxic, poisonous cyanide molecule that must then be removed from your body by your liver.
The proper form of vitamin B-12 to supplement is called methylcobalamin. This is the form that exists in nature, and it is pre-methylated, meaning it’s ready for your biochemistry to put to immediate use. Methylcobalamin has several key advantages over cyanocobalamin:
* Increased absorption
* Better retention in tissues
* Contains no toxic cyanide
* Supports production of SAMe
As explained by Ed Sharpe:
“The coenzyme form of vitamin B12 is known as methylcobalamin or methyl B12. It’s the only form of vitamin B12 which can directly participate in homocysteine metabolism. In addition, converting homocysteine to methionine via methyl B12 generates an increased supply of SAMe (S-adenosyl methionine), the body’s most important methyl donor.” (http://www.health101.org/art_methylcobalamin…)
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/032766_cyanocobalamin_vitamin_B-12.html#ixzz4ISE9vm2k
Taurine and other inhibitory nutrients
By nutrientscure
I was asked in an egroup whether I found the amino acid taurine useful. What follows is my response to this question of “is taurine useful to you?”.
Dear group:
Yes, I have found taurine very useful, and so has my son Willy.
I believe that taurine is one of the most inhibitory amino acids, if not the most inhibitory, for most persons that take it.
I first began to take taurine in August of 1997, and it greatly helped me to resolve a Klonopin addiction and go to sleep. Three 500 mg. capsules of taurine enabled me to reduce my Klonopin dosage from 2 mg. to .5 mg within a matter of a few weeks. However, when I first took four capsules of taurine to try to get off Klonopin completely, I found that it was too much for me and I just got a big headache the next day.
Incidentally, as “my brain changed” over the years, I later found that I could readily take four capsules of taurine without getting any headache whatsoever, despite the fact that I definitely could not take such a dose when I first began using taurine in 1997. I also later found that when I did get a headache from taurine or anything else, that phosphatidyl choline greatly helped me in regard to headache resolution. (I consider phosphatidyl choline as being better than aspirin or Tylenol in this regard, and my son Willy feels the same way.)
In September of 1997, I had added tryptophan, GABA, and glycine to my nutrient mix for sleep, rather than just using taurine all by itself. It took me about a month to get completely off of Klonopin (which I had used on a daily basis for eighteen months prior, and was clearly addicted to). I also threw in some methionine in the fall of 1997 or the winter of 1998 as well. Methionine is neither inhibitory or excitatory in me, but I had determined by simple trial that it helped me a little, and thus I knew I needed it.
My common bedtime nutrient cocktail for years beginning in the fall of 1997 was 1.5 grams each of tryptophan, taurine, GABA, and methionine, as well as 2.5 grams of glycine (as glycine was such a weak inhibitor for me, I put a bit more of it in my night baggie). I also used a 50 mg. B complex vitamin, 2,000 or 3,000 mg. of vitamin C, and two or three capules of phosphatidyl choline in my night baggie as well. In addition to this, I also put in three capsules of cal/mag/vitamin D (representing about 50% RDA), to get some inhibitory minerals into the mix. Sometimes I put in a gram of inositol as well. Later I also put in 1.5 grams of histidine, as I had found that this amino acid slowed me down too.
I have taken at least 1,200 bedtime baggies of inhibitory nutrients over the years, all very similar to what is listed above. In every instance, this inhibitory nutrient regime helped me to go to sleep, to stay asleep, and it helped with the quality of my sleep as well.
In my opinion, combining inhibitory nutrients such as is detailed above simply “blows away” any medication used for sleep that is on the market, whether it is prescription or it is over-the-counter. Why take a toxic and often addictive medication for sleep vs. taking a combination of inhibitory nutrients? A severe deficiency of inhibitory nutrients of some sort is the real reason most persons have a serious problem with sleep in the first place… and no medication can correct such a complex nutrient deficiency, no matter what the doctors and the drug companies say.
Obviously, the bedtime inhibitory nutrient regime listed above is not for everyone. People do react differently to various amino acids, and they do react differently to other nutrients as well. Only the person taking individual amino acids can determine what helps them or not from the standpoint of inhibition, and only the person taking individual amino acids can best determine the proper dosage for themselves as well. (In regard to dosage, the general safety rule is dose up slowly one capsule at a time, while monitoring effect in yourself… and make whatever adjustments are needed accordingly.)
At one point or another in the late 1990′s, I did isolate on taking every single nutrient in my night baggie on an individual basis to see how it effected me one way or the other. My goal here was to find all of my inhibitory nutrients, and then combine them all together and take them all at once for greatest effect. I was doing this due to the fact that I had a severe problem with sleep for decades. Using a combination of inhibitory nutrients did resolve my longstanding problem with sleep. And getting a good night’s sleep did a great deal for me in regard to curing myself of over three decades of symptoms of manic depression.
It might be worthy to note here that for some persons using a B complex vitamin is excitatory, and therefore it should be left out of any bedtime supplement regime.
My son Willy used a gram of taurine for a few years at bedtime to go to sleep. I don’t know offhand if he is still using it, but I do know that he has used taurine often and for a rather long time, and he has found it quite helpful. (Tryptophan is excitatory for Willy; it acts in reverse of the norm, this is sometimes called a paradoxical reaction. I would have told him to combine at least taurine and tryptophan for sleep, but he could not use tryptophan, and taurine seemed to be enough for him to “do the job” that he intended, which was to go to sleep and sleep well.)
Willy’s baggie does contain one or two capsules of taurine. Although this baggie is not taken at bedtime, I thought that this was perhaps worthy of mention here as well.
Perhaps worthy to note here is that Margot Kidder identified and used tryptophan, taurine, and GABA for sleep on her own years ago… and we had apparently reached these same conclusions independently of each other. She uses 1,000 mg. amounts of each, and I use 1,500 mg. amounts. (Margot Kidder’s suggestions on amino acids can be found on http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/ … ipolar.htm I should mention that this material is quite old; Margot may have learned “better” since then.)
Also perhaps worthy to note here is that on a completely unsolicited basis I sent an almost thirty page email to Julia Ross in the winter of 1998, detailing all I knew about the use of tryptophan, taurine, GABA, and glycine for sleep, as well as all I knew about carnitine and phoshatidyl choline slowing down the brain, all I knew about the use of tyrosine, phenylalanine, etc. I never got any response whatsoever from Julia Ross to this email.
Although the use of inhibitory nutrients as discussed in this blog, and in a prior blog titled “An egroup post on using lithium vs. raising acetylcholine” can be very useful when dealing with problematic sleep issues and/or hypomania, the use of only a handful of specific nutrients such as this is not the right approach to dealing with illnesses such as depression or bipolar disorder. Broad based supplementation, such as is in “Willy’s baggie” is a far more correct healing approach…. especially when it is coupled with dealing with one’s common malabsorptive causes (such as hidden food allergies, candida, etc., etc.) at the same time.
Allen
Three other blogs on inhibitory nutrients and/or sleep that are related to this one can be found at:
1. Two egroup posts on inhibitory nutrients written in 2003
http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-Kgb7fcYw … cq=1&p=260
2. An egroup post on using lithium vs. raising acetylcholine
http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-Kgb7fcYw … cq=1&p=301
3. An egroup post I wrote in 2005 on sleep
http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-Kgb7fcYw … cq=1&p=251
Taurine and other inhibitory nutrients
By nutrientscure
I was asked in an egroup whether I found the amino acid taurine useful. What follows is my response to this question of “is taurine useful to you?”.
Dear group:
Yes, I have found taurine very useful, and so has my son Willy.
I believe that taurine is one of the most inhibitory amino acids, if not the most inhibitory, for most persons that take it.
I first began to take taurine in August of 1997, and it greatly helped me to resolve a Klonopin addiction and go to sleep. Three 500 mg. capsules of taurine enabled me to reduce my Klonopin dosage from 2 mg. to .5 mg within a matter of a few weeks. However, when I first took four capsules of taurine to try to get off Klonopin completely, I found that it was too much for me and I just got a big headache the next day.
Incidentally, as “my brain changed” over the years, I later found that I could readily take four capsules of taurine without getting any headache whatsoever, despite the fact that I definitely could not take such a dose when I first began using taurine in 1997. I also later found that when I did get a headache from taurine or anything else, that phosphatidyl choline greatly helped me in regard to headache resolution. (I consider phosphatidyl choline as being better than aspirin or Tylenol in this regard, and my son Willy feels the same way.)
In September of 1997, I had added tryptophan, GABA, and glycine to my nutrient mix for sleep, rather than just using taurine all by itself. It took me about a month to get completely off of Klonopin (which I had used on a daily basis for eighteen months prior, and was clearly addicted to). I also threw in some methionine in the fall of 1997 or the winter of 1998 as well. Methionine is neither inhibitory or excitatory in me, but I had determined by simple trial that it helped me a little, and thus I knew I needed it.
My common bedtime nutrient cocktail for years beginning in the fall of 1997 was 1.5 grams each of tryptophan, taurine, GABA, and methionine, as well as 2.5 grams of glycine (as glycine was such a weak inhibitor for me, I put a bit more of it in my night baggie). I also used a 50 mg. B complex vitamin, 2,000 or 3,000 mg. of vitamin C, and two or three capules of phosphatidyl choline in my night baggie as well. In addition to this, I also put in three capsules of cal/mag/vitamin D (representing about 50% RDA), to get some inhibitory minerals into the mix. Sometimes I put in a gram of inositol as well. Later I also put in 1.5 grams of histidine, as I had found that this amino acid slowed me down too.
I have taken at least 1,200 bedtime baggies of inhibitory nutrients over the years, all very similar to what is listed above. In every instance, this inhibitory nutrient regime helped me to go to sleep, to stay asleep, and it helped with the quality of my sleep as well.
In my opinion, combining inhibitory nutrients such as is detailed above simply “blows away” any medication used for sleep that is on the market, whether it is prescription or it is over-the-counter. Why take a toxic and often addictive medication for sleep vs. taking a combination of inhibitory nutrients? A severe deficiency of inhibitory nutrients of some sort is the real reason most persons have a serious problem with sleep in the first place… and no medication can correct such a complex nutrient deficiency, no matter what the doctors and the drug companies say.
Obviously, the bedtime inhibitory nutrient regime listed above is not for everyone. People do react differently to various amino acids, and they do react differently to other nutrients as well. Only the person taking individual amino acids can determine what helps them or not from the standpoint of inhibition, and only the person taking individual amino acids can best determine the proper dosage for themselves as well. (In regard to dosage, the general safety rule is dose up slowly one capsule at a time, while monitoring effect in yourself… and make whatever adjustments are needed accordingly.)
At one point or another in the late 1990′s, I did isolate on taking every single nutrient in my night baggie on an individual basis to see how it effected me one way or the other. My goal here was to find all of my inhibitory nutrients, and then combine them all together and take them all at once for greatest effect. I was doing this due to the fact that I had a severe problem with sleep for decades. Using a combination of inhibitory nutrients did resolve my longstanding problem with sleep. And getting a good night’s sleep did a great deal for me in regard to curing myself of over three decades of symptoms of manic depression.
It might be worthy to note here that for some persons using a B complex vitamin is excitatory, and therefore it should be left out of any bedtime supplement regime.
My son Willy used a gram of taurine for a few years at bedtime to go to sleep. I don’t know offhand if he is still using it, but I do know that he has used taurine often and for a rather long time, and he has found it quite helpful. (Tryptophan is excitatory for Willy; it acts in reverse of the norm, this is sometimes called a paradoxical reaction. I would have told him to combine at least taurine and tryptophan for sleep, but he could not use tryptophan, and taurine seemed to be enough for him to “do the job” that he intended, which was to go to sleep and sleep well.)
Willy’s baggie does contain one or two capsules of taurine. Although this baggie is not taken at bedtime, I thought that this was perhaps worthy of mention here as well.
Perhaps worthy to note here is that Margot Kidder identified and used tryptophan, taurine, and GABA for sleep on her own years ago… and we had apparently reached these same conclusions independently of each other. She uses 1,000 mg. amounts of each, and I use 1,500 mg. amounts. (Margot Kidder’s suggestions on amino acids can be found on http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/ … ipolar.htm I should mention that this material is quite old; Margot may have learned “better” since then.)
Also perhaps worthy to note here is that on a completely unsolicited basis I sent an almost thirty page email to Julia Ross in the winter of 1998, detailing all I knew about the use of tryptophan, taurine, GABA, and glycine for sleep, as well as all I knew about carnitine and phoshatidyl choline slowing down the brain, all I knew about the use of tyrosine, phenylalanine, etc. I never got any response whatsoever from Julia Ross to this email.
Although the use of inhibitory nutrients as discussed in this blog, and in a prior blog titled “An egroup post on using lithium vs. raising acetylcholine” can be very useful when dealing with problematic sleep issues and/or hypomania, the use of only a handful of specific nutrients such as this is not the right approach to dealing with illnesses such as depression or bipolar disorder. Broad based supplementation, such as is in “Willy’s baggie” is a far more correct healing approach…. especially when it is coupled with dealing with one’s common malabsorptive causes (such as hidden food allergies, candida, etc., etc.) at the same time.
Allen
Three other blogs on inhibitory nutrients and/or sleep that are related to this one can be found at:
1. Two egroup posts on inhibitory nutrients written in 2003
http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-Kgb7fcYw … cq=1&p=260
2. An egroup post on using lithium vs. raising acetylcholine
http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-Kgb7fcYw … cq=1&p=301
3. An egroup post I wrote in 2005 on sleep
http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-Kgb7fcYw … cq=1&p=251
http://www.psychforums.com/insomnia/topic56408.html
there is some valuable info. on inhibitory amino acids for insomnia in the next link.
http://www.psychforums.com/insomnia/topic56408.html
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Anyone know what is best to knock a cold out?? I’m scared to take anything.
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I would add digestive enzymes to the list, green foods in general are good because they provide magnesium, sweet potatoes provide potassium.