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I have tried it without a dentist similiar to Dr. Axe hints, but i think it needs a treatment now.
Kurt
7 years ago
Question for the group…
How long does the joint popping and cracking last on average? Mine has gotten a little better but is still pretty bad.
veteran floxie
7 years ago
The FDA is controlled by big pharma, the directors in the FDA are the same people in big pharma, the system is very evil. The amount of suffering and pain they are inflicting on society is a hellish crime.
The best thing we can do is to promote positive thoughts and prayers among ourselves and create awareness so others won´t fall into this nightmare.
I got to the point with my latest reaction that i just gave up looking into the bad stuff, i realized we live in a hellish world and the forces that control this world are completely evil, they make ordinary people commit hellish crimes (doctors prescribing quins) i try to focus all my energy and thoughts on positive meditation and spiritual energy.
We are being tested in this life, the more positive energy we can create the better it will be for our souls.
I watched a video and a buddhist master said,
sometimes we are watching t.v. and we see the lottery in the program, and suddenly the number they are saying is the number we have,
and we say, oh that is my number, we are so happy!
oh what am i going to do with all this money, we are happy and then suddenly we wake up!
and we realize….oh it was just a dream.
and on another day, we are being chased by criminals and they want to kill us, we are very scared and frightened, and then again we wake up!
and we realize….oh it was just a dream,
so that is what buddha is saying….life is just a dream, no matter how good or bad it is.
it is just a dream.
But the good things we do and the love we share with others, those things we will take with us and they will enrich our soul.
cindy Jones
7 years ago
Life is nightmare for some .
Peter S.
7 years ago
I went to an urgent care ER because I had left side abdominal pains. They gave me Levofloxacin intravenously and also prescribed 9- 500mg tablets. I did start having muscle spasms on my left leg 3 days after my visit. It stopped the next day but now I have left thigh and knee pain which is worse when I walk but also at night. I visited my doctor 2 days ago and he put me on muscle relaxants and methylprednisolone. He said I’d be ok in about 5 days. It’s been 2 days on these meds and I’m still with the same pain. I only get partial relief from them. I would appreciate any feedback on this matter.
veteran floxie
7 years ago
So check this out,
on thursday i decided to try and experiment and see if i could expand my restricted diet, as you know i only eat potatoes and rice with organic chicken or fish, sometimes liver, i use onions and oregano for seasoning as i don´t eat salt or sugar, i cook it steamed with coconut oilt, for breakfast i eat sweet potatoes with a banana and bee pollen, i add probiotics to my mint tea, that´s it!
That day i was out riding my bike in town and i was really hungry, so idecided to eat some ceviche (raw fish cured in lime juice) it had some salt, i ate it with some tortilla chips (fried in some type of funky oil), that after noon i ate peanuts and some cornmeal cookies (the cookies have sugar and salt and are made with vegetable oil), i usually eat corn since it has no regular gluten.
Needless to say my experiment was a disaster!
My sleep was nil, it was broken from start to finish, an hour here and an hour there,
friday i decided to go back to my restricted diet and ate liver steamed with rice, onions and coconut oil,
last night i went to bed and slept two hours from 9:30 to 11:30, went to the john and back to bed, i ended up sleeping from about 12 to 5:20,
which is my normal sleeping pattern since taking the homeopathic remedy agaricus,
today i´m sticking with my restricted diet and hoping for the best.
veteran floxie
7 years ago
here is a good article on ozone therapy and antioxidants.
Many of these supplements can also have some serious side effects if you don’t do the proper research. Glutathione, for instance, is a very popular antioxidant supplement and for good reason; it can be very effective. However, if you have been exposed to mercury poisoning and take glutathione IV infusions it can actually move the mercury around, eventually settling it in the brain, nervous system, and the adrenal glands, which can cause some serious problems for your body -quote.
I’m new here (but not new to FQs) and wanted to share my story for new floxies, especially younger folk.
I strongly suspect I had previously taken Cipro before 2008, as I have horrible sinuses and usually get a bad infection once a year or so. I remember having really bad leg and arm pain that wouldn’t go away, and then it kind of subsided over a few months. I just assumed I had pulled muscles or something and didn’t think too much of it until I was prescribed Cipro in 2008 for a UTI/sinus combo 1000mg 2x a day for 7 days. (Amoxicillin would’ve worked fine – and did once I discontinued the Cipro, but it was urgent care and I trusted the doc!) I didn’t want to take it. I felt really uneasy about it, especially after reading the warnings and side effects, but I chalked it up to my anxiety and took the first pill.
A few hours later I felt that familiar ache that I hadn’t felt in years start in my ankle and tracks up my leg and I knew I was screwed. My parents convinced me that, as a highly anxious 19 year old, I might be making too much out of things and to take at least one more pill to try to kill the infection before we got a different prescription in the morning. And so I took the second (and last) pill. BELIEVE me, I was kicking myself about this months and months later.
The pain in my legs came first, then my arms and hands. My anxiety got ten times worse, which was much harder to deal with than the pain. My feet were buzzing all the time which drove me ******* crazy!!! And I got floaters in my eyes which was distressing to say the least (at least they were clear ones though – tiny blessings!) and I wanted nothing more than to go back in time and stop myself from taking those two pills.
I immediately got online and started to take magnesium, tried to reduce further exposure through poultry, and worked hard to only put things into my body that would help and not harm. It’s 2016 now and I can honestly say that I feel about as good as I did pre-floxing, with the exception of the floaters which have stuck with me (they bothered me the most in the long run, but I’ve learned to ignore them and only really see them now if I try to look for them). I also think I’m far more sensitive to medication now (still do great on Amox/Penicillin but can no longer tolerate other abx that used to work on me side effect free pre-Cipro).
Honestly, the greatest helper for me was time. I’m still convinced that wasn’t my first exposure, but it will most certainly be my last. I’ve been lurking the yahoo group and the like for years and just wanted to say hello to you all and let the newbie floxies and fellow youngins know that there is a life after these horrible things. It feels like hell at first, and for a long time, but time really does help to see things though.
Ryan L
7 years ago
I have a question for the floxie community that I’m unsure on. I’m considering whether or not to add a “dust mite controller” to a few rooms in my house. These can supposedly Kill dust mites instead of repelling them by using Ultrasonic waves that interfere with the growth cycle of dust mites. Some even come with a UV light that kills dust mites and their eggs. So my question is, is there any reason why a floxed person would want to avoid this technology? The fact that it kills things has me a little concerned for how it could negatively effect my health, and I figured someone here may have some insight to offer on this. Here’s an example of the product:
Im starting to give up, to ever get better. Over 13 months out, and im getting worse and worse over time . I feel like im slowly dying. many do seem to slowly recover over time. For me its just getting more and more a nightmare. I really dont know what to do anymore.
Vee
7 years ago
Joanne, how much mag do you take per day and tell us about your olive leaf experience.How much do you take and when?
Lenny
7 years ago
Hi there, I have a few questions.
My orthopaedist found out that my left achilles tendon suffers from athropy. Within six weeks it shrinked by a third of its origninally size. The four month before there was no size reduction.
Has anybody an idea how to stop this process? During this six weeks I took less iron and no glutathion. Could that be the reason? Or is it just the usual”way of floxing”? I have to mention that I touched one Cipro pill to give it to a naturepath doctor (very stupid, I know…) during this time. Could only touching be a trigger for those big issues?
I´m inscreasing my collagen and protein income and take the mentioned supplements again. Any further ideas?
I´m very scared that it is going to snatch.
Thank you all!
Amy
7 years ago
I believe I was given so much unnecessary Levaquin even after my initial infection was gone. I am a year out from initial meds (took for 3 werks) and 8 months from the last 10 day round of it. Having low platelets recently (along with not feeling good) and yesterday low wbc- I’m so scared it’s damaged my bone marrow & I have leukemia or something like that. Can anyone tell me anything about this kind of damage? I don’t know if it’s reversible or if it needs time or if I should start panicking. I literally have no one else to talk to about it as I wait for doc to answer…please help anyone?
Lenny
7 years ago
Thank you Mark and L for your very good advices. I never heard about prolozone before but I´ll have a look.
@ Mark what where your other symptoms? I have big tendon and joint issues, besides my eye problems and weight loss. Which amout of the mentioned supplements did you take ?
Lenny
7 years ago
Hi Ryan, thanks for you warning. Its really anaesthetic! I do not understand why its used together with the ozon. Do you, L or Ryan, have an idea?
Lenny
7 years ago
Hey Mark,
congrats to your partially recovery! Do you think that you will get rid of the knee issues? Every single joint in my body hurts and cracks and I´m scared that these adverse reaction, besides the tendon issues, won´t heal, but get worse and worse. No only in my body but in general in floxed bodies.
Have anybody heard of Floxies which had severe tendon/and or joint issues that were completely cured?
joanneg
7 years ago
Hi Ann,
or anyone suffering from constant dizziness, shaking, and a lot of brain issues,
I’ve been using the Omega Plus patch for the last 4 days and it’s helping so much with all my brain issues. I know it’s such a short time to know if it will continue to help, but it works so good I had to post for those who are in a desperate state and really need to try something to get some relief.
So far I’ve tried the Anti Aging one, the Multivitamin Plus, and now the Omega Plus, and they all helped with my symptoms, but the Omega Plus helped the most. I just ordered the Vitamin D one because my D has been low throughout this. It has Vitamin D, Vitamin K and magnesium in it. Here is their site http://www.patchmd.com/ but I’ve been ordering mine from e-bay because they’re 15.00 instead of 20.00
I like these patches for the price, ease, and convenience, but also when I had a reaction from the one with the high B vitamins in it, I just took it off, washed the spot and I started feeling better in a few minutes. But when you swallow a pill you can’t take it back which is scary if you’re having a bad reaction to it.
Anyhow, if anyone tries them, let us know if they help.
joanneg
7 years ago
Thanks Ryan,
I’m gonna write these down in case I want to do them in the future.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3189412/
Thank you L and Ryan!
I have tried it without a dentist similiar to Dr. Axe hints, but i think it needs a treatment now.
Question for the group…
How long does the joint popping and cracking last on average? Mine has gotten a little better but is still pretty bad.
The FDA is controlled by big pharma, the directors in the FDA are the same people in big pharma, the system is very evil. The amount of suffering and pain they are inflicting on society is a hellish crime.
The best thing we can do is to promote positive thoughts and prayers among ourselves and create awareness so others won´t fall into this nightmare.
I got to the point with my latest reaction that i just gave up looking into the bad stuff, i realized we live in a hellish world and the forces that control this world are completely evil, they make ordinary people commit hellish crimes (doctors prescribing quins) i try to focus all my energy and thoughts on positive meditation and spiritual energy.
We are being tested in this life, the more positive energy we can create the better it will be for our souls.
I watched a video and a buddhist master said,
sometimes we are watching t.v. and we see the lottery in the program, and suddenly the number they are saying is the number we have,
and we say, oh that is my number, we are so happy!
oh what am i going to do with all this money, we are happy and then suddenly we wake up!
and we realize….oh it was just a dream.
and on another day, we are being chased by criminals and they want to kill us, we are very scared and frightened, and then again we wake up!
and we realize….oh it was just a dream,
so that is what buddha is saying….life is just a dream, no matter how good or bad it is.
it is just a dream.
But the good things we do and the love we share with others, those things we will take with us and they will enrich our soul.
Life is nightmare for some .
I went to an urgent care ER because I had left side abdominal pains. They gave me Levofloxacin intravenously and also prescribed 9- 500mg tablets. I did start having muscle spasms on my left leg 3 days after my visit. It stopped the next day but now I have left thigh and knee pain which is worse when I walk but also at night. I visited my doctor 2 days ago and he put me on muscle relaxants and methylprednisolone. He said I’d be ok in about 5 days. It’s been 2 days on these meds and I’m still with the same pain. I only get partial relief from them. I would appreciate any feedback on this matter.
So check this out,
on thursday i decided to try and experiment and see if i could expand my restricted diet, as you know i only eat potatoes and rice with organic chicken or fish, sometimes liver, i use onions and oregano for seasoning as i don´t eat salt or sugar, i cook it steamed with coconut oilt, for breakfast i eat sweet potatoes with a banana and bee pollen, i add probiotics to my mint tea, that´s it!
That day i was out riding my bike in town and i was really hungry, so idecided to eat some ceviche (raw fish cured in lime juice) it had some salt, i ate it with some tortilla chips (fried in some type of funky oil), that after noon i ate peanuts and some cornmeal cookies (the cookies have sugar and salt and are made with vegetable oil), i usually eat corn since it has no regular gluten.
Needless to say my experiment was a disaster!
My sleep was nil, it was broken from start to finish, an hour here and an hour there,
friday i decided to go back to my restricted diet and ate liver steamed with rice, onions and coconut oil,
last night i went to bed and slept two hours from 9:30 to 11:30, went to the john and back to bed, i ended up sleeping from about 12 to 5:20,
which is my normal sleeping pattern since taking the homeopathic remedy agaricus,
today i´m sticking with my restricted diet and hoping for the best.
here is a good article on ozone therapy and antioxidants.
Many of these supplements can also have some serious side effects if you don’t do the proper research. Glutathione, for instance, is a very popular antioxidant supplement and for good reason; it can be very effective. However, if you have been exposed to mercury poisoning and take glutathione IV infusions it can actually move the mercury around, eventually settling it in the brain, nervous system, and the adrenal glands, which can cause some serious problems for your body -quote.
https://www.mypromolife.com/blog/2016/11/oxidative-stress-and-the-role-of-antioxidants-ozone-therapy-and-cbd
Has anybody tested lions mane, for nerve support?
Hi everyone!
I’m new here (but not new to FQs) and wanted to share my story for new floxies, especially younger folk.
I strongly suspect I had previously taken Cipro before 2008, as I have horrible sinuses and usually get a bad infection once a year or so. I remember having really bad leg and arm pain that wouldn’t go away, and then it kind of subsided over a few months. I just assumed I had pulled muscles or something and didn’t think too much of it until I was prescribed Cipro in 2008 for a UTI/sinus combo 1000mg 2x a day for 7 days. (Amoxicillin would’ve worked fine – and did once I discontinued the Cipro, but it was urgent care and I trusted the doc!) I didn’t want to take it. I felt really uneasy about it, especially after reading the warnings and side effects, but I chalked it up to my anxiety and took the first pill.
A few hours later I felt that familiar ache that I hadn’t felt in years start in my ankle and tracks up my leg and I knew I was screwed. My parents convinced me that, as a highly anxious 19 year old, I might be making too much out of things and to take at least one more pill to try to kill the infection before we got a different prescription in the morning. And so I took the second (and last) pill. BELIEVE me, I was kicking myself about this months and months later.
The pain in my legs came first, then my arms and hands. My anxiety got ten times worse, which was much harder to deal with than the pain. My feet were buzzing all the time which drove me ******* crazy!!! And I got floaters in my eyes which was distressing to say the least (at least they were clear ones though – tiny blessings!) and I wanted nothing more than to go back in time and stop myself from taking those two pills.
I immediately got online and started to take magnesium, tried to reduce further exposure through poultry, and worked hard to only put things into my body that would help and not harm. It’s 2016 now and I can honestly say that I feel about as good as I did pre-floxing, with the exception of the floaters which have stuck with me (they bothered me the most in the long run, but I’ve learned to ignore them and only really see them now if I try to look for them). I also think I’m far more sensitive to medication now (still do great on Amox/Penicillin but can no longer tolerate other abx that used to work on me side effect free pre-Cipro).
Honestly, the greatest helper for me was time. I’m still convinced that wasn’t my first exposure, but it will most certainly be my last. I’ve been lurking the yahoo group and the like for years and just wanted to say hello to you all and let the newbie floxies and fellow youngins know that there is a life after these horrible things. It feels like hell at first, and for a long time, but time really does help to see things though.
I have a question for the floxie community that I’m unsure on. I’m considering whether or not to add a “dust mite controller” to a few rooms in my house. These can supposedly Kill dust mites instead of repelling them by using Ultrasonic waves that interfere with the growth cycle of dust mites. Some even come with a UV light that kills dust mites and their eggs. So my question is, is there any reason why a floxed person would want to avoid this technology? The fact that it kills things has me a little concerned for how it could negatively effect my health, and I figured someone here may have some insight to offer on this. Here’s an example of the product:
https://www.amazon.com/Dust-Controller-technology-reduce-mites/dp/B00E1XNC4S/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1481076331&sr=8-1&keywords=ultrasonic+dust+mite+controller
Im starting to give up, to ever get better. Over 13 months out, and im getting worse and worse over time . I feel like im slowly dying. many do seem to slowly recover over time. For me its just getting more and more a nightmare. I really dont know what to do anymore.
Joanne, how much mag do you take per day and tell us about your olive leaf experience.How much do you take and when?
Hi there, I have a few questions.
My orthopaedist found out that my left achilles tendon suffers from athropy. Within six weeks it shrinked by a third of its origninally size. The four month before there was no size reduction.
Has anybody an idea how to stop this process? During this six weeks I took less iron and no glutathion. Could that be the reason? Or is it just the usual”way of floxing”? I have to mention that I touched one Cipro pill to give it to a naturepath doctor (very stupid, I know…) during this time. Could only touching be a trigger for those big issues?
I´m inscreasing my collagen and protein income and take the mentioned supplements again. Any further ideas?
I´m very scared that it is going to snatch.
Thank you all!
I believe I was given so much unnecessary Levaquin even after my initial infection was gone. I am a year out from initial meds (took for 3 werks) and 8 months from the last 10 day round of it. Having low platelets recently (along with not feeling good) and yesterday low wbc- I’m so scared it’s damaged my bone marrow & I have leukemia or something like that. Can anyone tell me anything about this kind of damage? I don’t know if it’s reversible or if it needs time or if I should start panicking. I literally have no one else to talk to about it as I wait for doc to answer…please help anyone?
Thank you Mark and L for your very good advices. I never heard about prolozone before but I´ll have a look.
@ Mark what where your other symptoms? I have big tendon and joint issues, besides my eye problems and weight loss. Which amout of the mentioned supplements did you take ?
Hi Ryan, thanks for you warning. Its really anaesthetic! I do not understand why its used together with the ozon. Do you, L or Ryan, have an idea?
Hey Mark,
congrats to your partially recovery! Do you think that you will get rid of the knee issues? Every single joint in my body hurts and cracks and I´m scared that these adverse reaction, besides the tendon issues, won´t heal, but get worse and worse. No only in my body but in general in floxed bodies.
Have anybody heard of Floxies which had severe tendon/and or joint issues that were completely cured?
Hi Ann,
or anyone suffering from constant dizziness, shaking, and a lot of brain issues,
I’ve been using the Omega Plus patch for the last 4 days and it’s helping so much with all my brain issues. I know it’s such a short time to know if it will continue to help, but it works so good I had to post for those who are in a desperate state and really need to try something to get some relief.
So far I’ve tried the Anti Aging one, the Multivitamin Plus, and now the Omega Plus, and they all helped with my symptoms, but the Omega Plus helped the most. I just ordered the Vitamin D one because my D has been low throughout this. It has Vitamin D, Vitamin K and magnesium in it. Here is their site http://www.patchmd.com/ but I’ve been ordering mine from e-bay because they’re 15.00 instead of 20.00
I like these patches for the price, ease, and convenience, but also when I had a reaction from the one with the high B vitamins in it, I just took it off, washed the spot and I started feeling better in a few minutes. But when you swallow a pill you can’t take it back which is scary if you’re having a bad reaction to it.
Anyhow, if anyone tries them, let us know if they help.
Thanks Ryan,
I’m gonna write these down in case I want to do them in the future.