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Andrea
6 years ago
Hey guys, just a little update on my supplements experience.
1. A few weeks ago, maybe more, I don’t remember, someone on this website, I can’t remember if it was Don, Bob or someone else, asked about MSM. I told him I’ve used it before, but without any success. Anyway long story short, it came out I was using too little of it. So after reading a lot about it (it should be pretty safe and good for joint pain and to boost glutathione production) I started “megadosing it”. Since the suggested dosage should be 5 gr a day, I started to taking this amount in 2 separeted doses. Then I moved up to 6, then 7, until I got to 10/12 gr a day. I’m also taking it with camu camu powder (it is supposed to be the fruit with the highest vitamic c content) and MSM is better absorbed with vitamin c. The only side effect I’ve noticed, only the first week, was a boring headache, immediately after drinking it. But it went away pretty soon. I’m not sure if it’s really helping, but I’ve noticed that, if a take it after a long walk or a small workout, the aches in the ankles and in the joints, kinda decrease.
2 It’s been 3 months since I started taking Palmitoylethanolamide (PEA) 600 mg, 2 tablets a day. “PEA is an endogenous fatty acid amide, belonging to the class of nuclear factor agonists. PEA has been demonstrated to bind to a receptor in the cell-nucleus (a nuclear receptor) and exerts a great variety of biological functions related to chronic pain and inflammation” according to Wikipedia. It was discovered by an italian Noble Prize winner scientist. It’s also used by multiple sclerosis patients.My opinion on this, it’s that REALLY helps with pain. I’m not saying that now that I’m taking it my aches and pains are gone, they’re still there, but I’d say they decreased by a godd 50 sometimes 60%. I’ve noticed it, because after the third month ended, I give it up, and all the pain in lower legs, started to flear up, and my sleep, started to getting worse (like if it was already nice). Of course it was very disappointing to understand that, I was doing quite good because of some tablets instead of a natural healing process. I now understand that I’m just doing the right things to restrain the damage. Oh wel…
Hope this help.
Bye guys.
Don M
6 years ago
Just passing on something that came across my computer screen. https://www.nerveaid.com/
Obviously it is an ad to sell their product but they claim to have “the best” for treatment of neuropathy. Doesn’t everybody have “the best”? The ingredient list looks pretty impressive.
I have not tried it so have no comment about it.
Won’t try to bore you with more chatter but if you are interested look into this.
Pauline
6 years ago
MAJOR WARNING.Can I please stress the dangers of not only the fluoroquinolones but also say that the benzodiazepines are pure evil drugs. I know this is a website for antibiotic toxicity but it is my belief that all drugs are dangerous and that we are far better off without them. No doubt others will disagree but one has to question their motives very avidly. Prof Ashton has spent several years studying th detrimental effects of benzodiazepines.
Pauline
6 years ago
sod off
Da niela
6 years ago
Hey Andrea, Thanks for asking, child is ok 🙂
Don, They are still struggling with the pet. I think it might be an allergic reaction because it got diarrhea as well, although that is resolving. The vets want to give a flox/steroid/antifungal mix! Also “update their shots” even though it literally says on the vaccine label “for use only in healthy animals”, the pet is indoor only and previously vaccinated.
I understand why they made the mix because the cortisone stops itching, the flox kills everything and the anti-yeast is for the side effect of the antibiotic. When the scratching stops, you think your pet is cured. And when they have “arthritis” later, oh well….
I got them a bottle of silver biotics to put in the water bowl. I haven’t gotten the nerve to make it myself yet.
For the Americans, do you notice all the doctors and vets like to say “bring out the big guns”.
Pauline
6 years ago
did anyone get muscular spasms following floxing. Thanks.
Pauline
6 years ago
good ideas Don as usual, thanks.
Andrea
6 years ago
Hey guys,
I wanted to share with you another disappointing experience that got me furious. Expecially because I’m getting into a terrible relapse, just like last summer, so I’m expeecting to suffer for the next 2 months at least.
Anyway, a couple of days ago, a friend of mine, we used to train together, so he knew all the struggle I’m experiencing after being poisoned by that s**t and saw how bad it messed me up, told me he was suffering a UTI, and his doctor prescribed him Cipro for 10 days. Of course, he listened to me, and told his doc to prescribe him something else. so he prescribed him Bactrim. I told him that even Bactrim is still dangerous, and if I was him I would insted take amoxicilline, wich, in my opinion is one of the most well tollerated antibiotic out there. But he said that he used A. without any success another time, so he’s now taking Bactrim for 10 days. Hope he’ll do good. Anyway, it amaze me, how these dumb f***s, are still prescribing these bombs just like that. I mean, at the hearing, those doctors repeated many times that in Europe, FQs should be never prescribed as first approach, and used only when other therapies fails and all that good stuff…are these motherf****s just lying to us or they even belive their own bulls**t?
Excuse my outburst but I’m just furious. And in so much pain.
Andrea
6 years ago
Don, what benefits does colloidal silver give you anyway? I’m curious but so scared about argyria. Thanks
Joanne.
6 years ago
Hi Everyone,
I haven’t posted in a while, but I’ve been taking a supplement that is helping me sooo much I wanted to tell everyone to read up on it and please give it a try. It helps every one of my leftover symptoms! It’s been absolutely amazing for me so far.
Here’s a link to some info on it
Seanol and Ecklonia Cava – A New Powerful Healing Seaweed | Relax Into Success https://paulhaider.wordpress.com/2013/09/03/seanol-and-ecklonia-cava-a-new-powerful-healing-seaweed/
I buy Ecklonia Extract 99% pure by Ortho Nutrition, Inc. On Amazon it’s 30$ for a month’s supply.
Henk Noordhuizen
6 years ago
Lisa,could you,please,remove the spam from xcodeforwindows? And to others on this blog: don’t click that link;that website looks risky!
Ronna
6 years ago
Has anyone gone on Pallaitive care for symptom relief and improved quality of life?
Don M
6 years ago
I am going to post a web site on a pain reliever that I found advertised on the Internet. https://www.luminas.com/?cp=14565&utm_source=engageim
It is said to be a “non narcotic” pain relief patch.
It is available for purchase direct, on Amazon and I suppose other places too.
I have never used it and in no way advocate it but figured that maybe some might want to investigate it. When it comes to reducing or eliminating pain everything is worth a look.
Has anyone found something that helps with histamine intolerance/mast cell activation syndrome apart from following a low histamine diet?
Also, has anyone tried an amino acid supplement for neurological symptoms?
Nunez
6 years ago
Hi guys i had a question, is someone took cipro and was affected by it and needed to have dental work done that was necessary, are they at risk if the dentist uses Anastasia on a tooth that will undergo alot of work? What if the individual detoxes?
Bob, it is really hard to say if Mueller’s treatment has helped me?? I got floxed a year ago in the beginning of July. I started his treatment 2/3 weeks later. I also added supplements over the next few months as I became more informed. Now a year later I would consider myself 85-90%healed?? I’m not sure weather to attribute it to homeopathy, supplements, time or all of the above!!?? I still have some lingering symptoms including tinnitus, mild anxiety, mild brain fog, waking up early in morning although for months i had pretty severe insomnia and I didn’t sleep well at all. I have leaky gut with some GI issues and on occasion I get stiff/achy ankles and knees. I don’t feel recovered but I feel much improved. How long ago did you get floxed before starting his treatments? How many FQ pills did you take and were your symptoms severe? You mentioned you also had a relapse to septocaine. Was that after starting with Muller and do you feel it took you right back to day 1 of being floxed or had you felt somewhat recovered before that? I am thinking if you felt somewhat on your way to recovery that the septocaine set you back a lot. I sure pray that your relapse will settle down soon and you can be back on your way to recovery. I am not a youngster either. I am 62 so have always felt that most likely it will take me longer to recover!
Daniela, thanks! It is always hard to determine what percentage one has improved but all I know is that I was in really bad shape a year ago. I am a retired PE teacher and could not go back to finish my last semester of teaching last fall. I was a wreak. Horrible brain fog and spacey like being in the 5th dimension. Dry achy eyes which became blurry off and on. Dry mouth and ears. Neuropathy mostly in my legs, achy/stiff joints, major fatigue, rash on back, lost 50 lbs/no appetite, GI issues, Headaches, depression, depersonalization. Horrible insomnia and anxiety for months. Horrible loud throbbing/buzzing tinnitus. It has all improved greatly and some things are gone or almost gone. My biggest challenge is mental! I worry about getting all the way better, what I can eat or drink, meds I can take in future, getting or triggering a relapse. It is just so scary and of course unpredictable! I try to have faith that I will fully receiver as I have improved in leaps and bounds. I try to stay calm and positive and believe my body is continuing to heal! I pray for a complete recovery and for all floxies to improve, heal, recover and continue on a path to recovery!! No one should have to suffer through this!! I have read that it typically can take about 2 yesrs(on the average) to recover so I am really hoping that the next few months will bring me complete healing!???????? I hope you are doing a lot better day by day too!!!
Ursula
6 years ago
I just want to ask about dental work, do we take local anesthesia. I am so scared. Also want to remove 6 amalgam fillings at a biological trained dentist, anesthesia problem again.
Ronna
6 years ago
Dee, how long did you have the GI issues, I don’t see any improvement in mine no matter what I try. What exactly was your GI issues so I have something to compare to. I’m becoming exhausted trying.
Hey guys, just a little update on my supplements experience.
1. A few weeks ago, maybe more, I don’t remember, someone on this website, I can’t remember if it was Don, Bob or someone else, asked about MSM. I told him I’ve used it before, but without any success. Anyway long story short, it came out I was using too little of it. So after reading a lot about it (it should be pretty safe and good for joint pain and to boost glutathione production) I started “megadosing it”. Since the suggested dosage should be 5 gr a day, I started to taking this amount in 2 separeted doses. Then I moved up to 6, then 7, until I got to 10/12 gr a day. I’m also taking it with camu camu powder (it is supposed to be the fruit with the highest vitamic c content) and MSM is better absorbed with vitamin c. The only side effect I’ve noticed, only the first week, was a boring headache, immediately after drinking it. But it went away pretty soon. I’m not sure if it’s really helping, but I’ve noticed that, if a take it after a long walk or a small workout, the aches in the ankles and in the joints, kinda decrease.
2 It’s been 3 months since I started taking Palmitoylethanolamide (PEA) 600 mg, 2 tablets a day. “PEA is an endogenous fatty acid amide, belonging to the class of nuclear factor agonists. PEA has been demonstrated to bind to a receptor in the cell-nucleus (a nuclear receptor) and exerts a great variety of biological functions related to chronic pain and inflammation” according to Wikipedia. It was discovered by an italian Noble Prize winner scientist. It’s also used by multiple sclerosis patients.My opinion on this, it’s that REALLY helps with pain. I’m not saying that now that I’m taking it my aches and pains are gone, they’re still there, but I’d say they decreased by a godd 50 sometimes 60%. I’ve noticed it, because after the third month ended, I give it up, and all the pain in lower legs, started to flear up, and my sleep, started to getting worse (like if it was already nice). Of course it was very disappointing to understand that, I was doing quite good because of some tablets instead of a natural healing process. I now understand that I’m just doing the right things to restrain the damage. Oh wel…
Hope this help.
Bye guys.
Just passing on something that came across my computer screen.
https://www.nerveaid.com/
Obviously it is an ad to sell their product but they claim to have “the best” for treatment of neuropathy. Doesn’t everybody have “the best”? The ingredient list looks pretty impressive.
I have not tried it so have no comment about it.
Won’t try to bore you with more chatter but if you are interested look into this.
MAJOR WARNING.Can I please stress the dangers of not only the fluoroquinolones but also say that the benzodiazepines are pure evil drugs. I know this is a website for antibiotic toxicity but it is my belief that all drugs are dangerous and that we are far better off without them. No doubt others will disagree but one has to question their motives very avidly. Prof Ashton has spent several years studying th detrimental effects of benzodiazepines.
sod off
Hey Andrea, Thanks for asking, child is ok 🙂
Don, They are still struggling with the pet. I think it might be an allergic reaction because it got diarrhea as well, although that is resolving. The vets want to give a flox/steroid/antifungal mix! Also “update their shots” even though it literally says on the vaccine label “for use only in healthy animals”, the pet is indoor only and previously vaccinated.
I understand why they made the mix because the cortisone stops itching, the flox kills everything and the anti-yeast is for the side effect of the antibiotic. When the scratching stops, you think your pet is cured. And when they have “arthritis” later, oh well….
I got them a bottle of silver biotics to put in the water bowl. I haven’t gotten the nerve to make it myself yet.
For the Americans, do you notice all the doctors and vets like to say “bring out the big guns”.
did anyone get muscular spasms following floxing. Thanks.
good ideas Don as usual, thanks.
Hey guys,
I wanted to share with you another disappointing experience that got me furious. Expecially because I’m getting into a terrible relapse, just like last summer, so I’m expeecting to suffer for the next 2 months at least.
Anyway, a couple of days ago, a friend of mine, we used to train together, so he knew all the struggle I’m experiencing after being poisoned by that s**t and saw how bad it messed me up, told me he was suffering a UTI, and his doctor prescribed him Cipro for 10 days. Of course, he listened to me, and told his doc to prescribe him something else. so he prescribed him Bactrim. I told him that even Bactrim is still dangerous, and if I was him I would insted take amoxicilline, wich, in my opinion is one of the most well tollerated antibiotic out there. But he said that he used A. without any success another time, so he’s now taking Bactrim for 10 days. Hope he’ll do good. Anyway, it amaze me, how these dumb f***s, are still prescribing these bombs just like that. I mean, at the hearing, those doctors repeated many times that in Europe, FQs should be never prescribed as first approach, and used only when other therapies fails and all that good stuff…are these motherf****s just lying to us or they even belive their own bulls**t?
Excuse my outburst but I’m just furious. And in so much pain.
Don, what benefits does colloidal silver give you anyway? I’m curious but so scared about argyria. Thanks
Hi Everyone,
I haven’t posted in a while, but I’ve been taking a supplement that is helping me sooo much I wanted to tell everyone to read up on it and please give it a try. It helps every one of my leftover symptoms! It’s been absolutely amazing for me so far.
Here’s a link to some info on it
Seanol and Ecklonia Cava – A New Powerful Healing Seaweed | Relax Into Success
https://paulhaider.wordpress.com/2013/09/03/seanol-and-ecklonia-cava-a-new-powerful-healing-seaweed/
I buy Ecklonia Extract 99% pure by Ortho Nutrition, Inc. On Amazon it’s 30$ for a month’s supply.
Lisa,could you,please,remove the spam from xcodeforwindows? And to others on this blog: don’t click that link;that website looks risky!
Has anyone gone on Pallaitive care for symptom relief and improved quality of life?
I am going to post a web site on a pain reliever that I found advertised on the Internet.
https://www.luminas.com/?cp=14565&utm_source=engageim
It is said to be a “non narcotic” pain relief patch.
It is available for purchase direct, on Amazon and I suppose other places too.
I have never used it and in no way advocate it but figured that maybe some might want to investigate it. When it comes to reducing or eliminating pain everything is worth a look.
Has anyone found something that helps with histamine intolerance/mast cell activation syndrome apart from following a low histamine diet?
Also, has anyone tried an amino acid supplement for neurological symptoms?
Hi guys i had a question, is someone took cipro and was affected by it and needed to have dental work done that was necessary, are they at risk if the dentist uses Anastasia on a tooth that will undergo alot of work? What if the individual detoxes?
Lisa This is the illogicality facing us in the UK.https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/cannabis-oil-row-billy-caldwell-under-hospital-arrest-says-mother/ar-AAzDRFV?ocid=spartandhp
Bob, it is really hard to say if Mueller’s treatment has helped me?? I got floxed a year ago in the beginning of July. I started his treatment 2/3 weeks later. I also added supplements over the next few months as I became more informed. Now a year later I would consider myself 85-90%healed?? I’m not sure weather to attribute it to homeopathy, supplements, time or all of the above!!?? I still have some lingering symptoms including tinnitus, mild anxiety, mild brain fog, waking up early in morning although for months i had pretty severe insomnia and I didn’t sleep well at all. I have leaky gut with some GI issues and on occasion I get stiff/achy ankles and knees. I don’t feel recovered but I feel much improved. How long ago did you get floxed before starting his treatments? How many FQ pills did you take and were your symptoms severe? You mentioned you also had a relapse to septocaine. Was that after starting with Muller and do you feel it took you right back to day 1 of being floxed or had you felt somewhat recovered before that? I am thinking if you felt somewhat on your way to recovery that the septocaine set you back a lot. I sure pray that your relapse will settle down soon and you can be back on your way to recovery. I am not a youngster either. I am 62 so have always felt that most likely it will take me longer to recover!
Daniela, thanks! It is always hard to determine what percentage one has improved but all I know is that I was in really bad shape a year ago. I am a retired PE teacher and could not go back to finish my last semester of teaching last fall. I was a wreak. Horrible brain fog and spacey like being in the 5th dimension. Dry achy eyes which became blurry off and on. Dry mouth and ears. Neuropathy mostly in my legs, achy/stiff joints, major fatigue, rash on back, lost 50 lbs/no appetite, GI issues, Headaches, depression, depersonalization. Horrible insomnia and anxiety for months. Horrible loud throbbing/buzzing tinnitus. It has all improved greatly and some things are gone or almost gone. My biggest challenge is mental! I worry about getting all the way better, what I can eat or drink, meds I can take in future, getting or triggering a relapse. It is just so scary and of course unpredictable! I try to have faith that I will fully receiver as I have improved in leaps and bounds. I try to stay calm and positive and believe my body is continuing to heal! I pray for a complete recovery and for all floxies to improve, heal, recover and continue on a path to recovery!! No one should have to suffer through this!! I have read that it typically can take about 2 yesrs(on the average) to recover so I am really hoping that the next few months will bring me complete healing!???????? I hope you are doing a lot better day by day too!!!
I just want to ask about dental work, do we take local anesthesia. I am so scared. Also want to remove 6 amalgam fillings at a biological trained dentist, anesthesia problem again.
Dee, how long did you have the GI issues, I don’t see any improvement in mine no matter what I try. What exactly was your GI issues so I have something to compare to. I’m becoming exhausted trying.