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Andrea. I understand. Was just throwing it out there. Keep plugging away. You have made a lot of progress so there is no reason not to believe that you will keep moving forward. Time heals so many even if it isn’t on “our” time table. Keep the faith. You “still” have a strong body that is working hard to heal. I think in due time it will come through for you.
Barbara. You haven’t posted for awhile. You always are so positive and encouraging! You helped calm me down and feel better a few times as I think staying calm, hopeful and positive is half of this challenging battle!! Thank you for that! How are you doing?? I hope as time marches on that you are continuing to see more improved days! I can’t remember how long you have been floxed for but I know you are slowly taking steps forward one day at a time. I am thinking of looking into ozone treatment after the new year. I am about a year in a half out and need to get to that finish line with a few lingering symptoms. I know I should give it at least a couple of years but was hoping the ozone would push it along. Where were you in your recovery when you started the ozone?
Barbara. That is so awesome to hear that you are doing well and slowly getting back to a normal life at your young age!!! I am 62 so worry about my age but you definetly inspire me!! I’m sorry to hear that your husband is going through chemo and I wish the very best for his recovery! I’m sure you support, love and encourage him everyday which is so healing in itself. Prayers and blessings for you and your family. Let’s continue to find strength!
L. Thanks for the info on the ozone too. I’m definetly considering it to “help” me get to the finish line with my lingering symptoms. It probably won’t help my tinnitus though…argh…. how is your tinnitus doing? Has it made any improvement lately?
ciprovictim
5 years ago
Hello,
i am 19 months out (i have took Cipro for 5 days) and i am still experiancing brainfog, achillodynia, sicca syndrom, floaters and lights. i am 80% better than a year ago, but the brainfog is still very present.
is there any hope to heal the brain? i was floxed in the age of 36, now i am 38
greetings
L
5 years ago
No actually double vision is something different than what I am talking about. With that you see two of whatever you are looking at what I referred to was seeing a different picture out of each eye. Very disturbing.
It really is remarkable how offended most doctors get when you say you don’t want these poisons. I think it is for many different reasons. One is arrogance. How dare you question someone with a medical degree! Another us brainwashing. This is how they are taught. That’s the difference between them and NDs. A pill for everything! Then as you say they have a profit motive. I am sure sone go into the profession wanting to do good work. But they are corrupted and brainwashed by the system.
Andrea
5 years ago
“the first time I mentioned those,two weeks after I had my 4 pills of Cipro she reacted quite angry and almost shouted to me she’d never heard any complaint about Cipro”…Hey henk, why don’t you send her an email with the new EMA reccomendation about FQ’s, or tell her to see the whole hearing on youtube…those dumb F**ks
Mike Wallbridge
5 years ago
I had an interesting visit yesterday to a widely respected herbalist who has already had experience of the fluoroquinolone toxicity problem, chiefly through a friend who had been floxed. For treatment, I came away with a tincture that will supposedly help with healing of tendons and ligaments but he also recommended that I eat a small amount of tamarind each day and showed me research that showed that it is wonderful at ridding the body of fluorine. Has anyone already come across this?
Henk Noordhuizen
5 years ago
The study was done with Tamarind leaves,but the article also mentions the health promoting abilities of the fruit. The discussion after the article is quite interesting and funny :-)) Ik hope the Tamarind tea also works on dislexia ;-))
I live here in CA and was prescribed cipro in June 17 despite the FDA warnings. After I had my reaction my Doc said he prescribes it all the time for UTIs and other infections in over a 20 year practice and had not seen a patient with a reaction like mine. Another words it was “rare” so hand out the meds! In fact he said to me later “what am I going to give you for a UTI if you can’t have Cipro?”!! He thought he was being funny but as you can imagine it wasn’t funny to me! He believed me that I had a reaction but because I am so rare I know he still hands it out. I really liked my Doc but I rarely see him now as I can’t trust him. I have found another Doc to see that is far more knowledgeable. It sure is a travesty how uneducated and ignorant these Docs are to the strength of FQs and to save them for life saving infections. I know they give them out to wipe out an infection “quickly” and effectively as my Doc would say but they have been informed not to. So frustrating and irritating that they ignore these warnings because in their “own” experience these side effects are rare. I guess they know more then the scientific studies!!! The only thing that will actually solve this problem is to ban these meds except in hospitals to save lives.
Bob. I’m getting homeopathic treatment from Mr Mueller. I started getting treatment a couple of weeks after getting floxed so have had treatment now for a year in a half. Did you end up going back to him for more treatment? How are you doing now?? I hope you are doing better little by little which seems like that is how this recovery pace goes….like a snail!!
Attsy
5 years ago
Hello,
I am new here. I have been floxed for 6 months now and still not doing well. In June I was prescribed Ofloxacin for kidney infection by my new doctor. After I asked about side effects he told me that these antibiotics are pretty mild and I can even go to work with them (although I had fever and kidney infection). I believed him. I felt sick just after 1st pill, I was told not to stop otherwise the infection would go worse. After 6 pills my left kidney almost failed, I was in enormous pain, I was bleeding and had a long lasting diarrhea. I was taken to the ER that day.
I went back to my doctor after few days just to talk and told him what happened. He turned angry and started to make fun from me like “You googled the symptoms and you are imagining pain”, “Cipro and Ofloxacin are my best antibiotics, I prescribed them twice to everyone here and no one has every complained”. He called me a hypochondriac and that I was just wasting his time.
I am still in pain, lost around 10 kgs, can digest only rice and potatoes, sometimes boiled chicken, my joints hurt, I have diarrhea. Now I have a new symptoms toothache, nerve pain, anxiety and brain fog.
I am happy I found your side which is encouraging but I honestly from time to time think, I won’t be able to hold this. I am now in a process of finding a new doctor. It’s very hard because that doctor is a big specialist here and everyone likes him. I will have to find a doctor in a completely new city, which makes it much harder.
Doctors don’t know much about these atbs here and think that they make no harm to people so I can’t even talk about it.
After I reported the pills, people from our local health community made a statement for the doctors on the website, that these pills should be used only if all the other antibiotics fail, because they are very strong and dangerous. My now ex doctor said he has no time to read such a nonsense :/.
Just wanted to thank you for the website where I can find information, otherwise I would be completely lost.
Darko pet
5 years ago
I am interested to find out if anyone has tried Ozone Therapy. I read somewhere that it can boost immune system and improve symptoms of Fluoroquinolones side effects
Darko pet
5 years ago
Thanks Barbara.
I have been looking into a number of places but they mainly appear to be beauty clinics not necessarily official private clinics. Thank you again for taking your time to respond.
Mike Wallbridge
5 years ago
I’m taking 600mg of Magnesium Glycinate each today together with probably about 500mg Magnesium Oil rubbed on my body before I go to bed. At present, my pain and symptoms over most of my body are minimal but I’m most concerned about my eyes; my sight prescription has changed and I experience soreness that I think comes from the surrounding muscles/ligaments etc. I read somewhere though I can’t remember now where that most magnesium supplements don’t have any effect above the neckline. If that’s true, I wonder how best to treat the effects of toxicity on my eyes and whether there are specific magnesium supplements that would help the brain, eyes etc better than most. Any advice, please?
Attsy
5 years ago
Hi guys,
Yesterday I thought about your words. I wrote detailed complain to the hospital management. The doctor read it and called my mum (I don’t understand why my mum). He told her he is willing to help me but I HAVE TO TAKE ANOTHER COURSE OF THESE ANTIBOTICS! He will probably deny everything I complained about and I will be back where I was. No one believes me, only my mum. But still I have nothing to lose.
Unfortunately I am not really sure what to do, because I can barely eat, how long can I live like this? I am trying to do everything suggested but I am losing hope. I am extremely weak. Other doctors would take me maybe in 6 months – they have so many patients (I mean the better doctors). Hospital won’t take me as I don’t have recommendation. It’s said my country has one of the best health care system (and also free) in the Europe but probably not for me. I usually pay for everything in the clinics and it’s not cheap (you only don’t pay in the hospitals) + the mandatory health insurance. Plus no one knows how dangerous are these antibiotics here.
Cipropoisoned
5 years ago
Veteran floxie here. 7 years coming Jan. Still continue to have symptoms. Have cycles every several months. My recent cycle began with severe night sweats similar to my original floxing. Now, I feel fatigued, GI is off the wall, nerve pains all over like I am being bitten by bees, ankle pains, Achilles tendon insertion site pains… Sleep disorder is back and so is the anxiety, not to the same degree as the past, but strong enough to see my life change from routine. I have come to the conclusion that I will never be back to normal health and that what is going on is really an autoimmune illness that was triggered by CIPRO. Mitochondrial damage, Magnesium depletion, oxidative stress, etc. sound reasonable, but they don’t explain the chronic, cyclic nature of this poisoning. I am highly certain that what was triggered was Lupus-like Illness. It’s the only illness that makes medical sense.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/320759.php
Andrea. I understand. Was just throwing it out there. Keep plugging away. You have made a lot of progress so there is no reason not to believe that you will keep moving forward. Time heals so many even if it isn’t on “our” time table. Keep the faith. You “still” have a strong body that is working hard to heal. I think in due time it will come through for you.
Barbara. You haven’t posted for awhile. You always are so positive and encouraging! You helped calm me down and feel better a few times as I think staying calm, hopeful and positive is half of this challenging battle!! Thank you for that! How are you doing?? I hope as time marches on that you are continuing to see more improved days! I can’t remember how long you have been floxed for but I know you are slowly taking steps forward one day at a time. I am thinking of looking into ozone treatment after the new year. I am about a year in a half out and need to get to that finish line with a few lingering symptoms. I know I should give it at least a couple of years but was hoping the ozone would push it along. Where were you in your recovery when you started the ozone?
Barbara. That is so awesome to hear that you are doing well and slowly getting back to a normal life at your young age!!! I am 62 so worry about my age but you definetly inspire me!! I’m sorry to hear that your husband is going through chemo and I wish the very best for his recovery! I’m sure you support, love and encourage him everyday which is so healing in itself. Prayers and blessings for you and your family. Let’s continue to find strength!
L. Thanks for the info on the ozone too. I’m definetly considering it to “help” me get to the finish line with my lingering symptoms. It probably won’t help my tinnitus though…argh…. how is your tinnitus doing? Has it made any improvement lately?
Hello,
i am 19 months out (i have took Cipro for 5 days) and i am still experiancing brainfog, achillodynia, sicca syndrom, floaters and lights. i am 80% better than a year ago, but the brainfog is still very present.
is there any hope to heal the brain? i was floxed in the age of 36, now i am 38
greetings
No actually double vision is something different than what I am talking about. With that you see two of whatever you are looking at what I referred to was seeing a different picture out of each eye. Very disturbing.
It really is remarkable how offended most doctors get when you say you don’t want these poisons. I think it is for many different reasons. One is arrogance. How dare you question someone with a medical degree! Another us brainwashing. This is how they are taught. That’s the difference between them and NDs. A pill for everything! Then as you say they have a profit motive. I am sure sone go into the profession wanting to do good work. But they are corrupted and brainwashed by the system.
“the first time I mentioned those,two weeks after I had my 4 pills of Cipro she reacted quite angry and almost shouted to me she’d never heard any complaint about Cipro”…Hey henk, why don’t you send her an email with the new EMA reccomendation about FQ’s, or tell her to see the whole hearing on youtube…those dumb F**ks
I had an interesting visit yesterday to a widely respected herbalist who has already had experience of the fluoroquinolone toxicity problem, chiefly through a friend who had been floxed. For treatment, I came away with a tincture that will supposedly help with healing of tendons and ligaments but he also recommended that I eat a small amount of tamarind each day and showed me research that showed that it is wonderful at ridding the body of fluorine. Has anyone already come across this?
The study was done with Tamarind leaves,but the article also mentions the health promoting abilities of the fruit. The discussion after the article is quite interesting and funny :-)) Ik hope the Tamarind tea also works on dislexia ;-))
I live here in CA and was prescribed cipro in June 17 despite the FDA warnings. After I had my reaction my Doc said he prescribes it all the time for UTIs and other infections in over a 20 year practice and had not seen a patient with a reaction like mine. Another words it was “rare” so hand out the meds! In fact he said to me later “what am I going to give you for a UTI if you can’t have Cipro?”!! He thought he was being funny but as you can imagine it wasn’t funny to me! He believed me that I had a reaction but because I am so rare I know he still hands it out. I really liked my Doc but I rarely see him now as I can’t trust him. I have found another Doc to see that is far more knowledgeable. It sure is a travesty how uneducated and ignorant these Docs are to the strength of FQs and to save them for life saving infections. I know they give them out to wipe out an infection “quickly” and effectively as my Doc would say but they have been informed not to. So frustrating and irritating that they ignore these warnings because in their “own” experience these side effects are rare. I guess they know more then the scientific studies!!! The only thing that will actually solve this problem is to ban these meds except in hospitals to save lives.
Bob. I’m getting homeopathic treatment from Mr Mueller. I started getting treatment a couple of weeks after getting floxed so have had treatment now for a year in a half. Did you end up going back to him for more treatment? How are you doing now?? I hope you are doing better little by little which seems like that is how this recovery pace goes….like a snail!!
Hello,
I am new here. I have been floxed for 6 months now and still not doing well. In June I was prescribed Ofloxacin for kidney infection by my new doctor. After I asked about side effects he told me that these antibiotics are pretty mild and I can even go to work with them (although I had fever and kidney infection). I believed him. I felt sick just after 1st pill, I was told not to stop otherwise the infection would go worse. After 6 pills my left kidney almost failed, I was in enormous pain, I was bleeding and had a long lasting diarrhea. I was taken to the ER that day.
I went back to my doctor after few days just to talk and told him what happened. He turned angry and started to make fun from me like “You googled the symptoms and you are imagining pain”, “Cipro and Ofloxacin are my best antibiotics, I prescribed them twice to everyone here and no one has every complained”. He called me a hypochondriac and that I was just wasting his time.
I am still in pain, lost around 10 kgs, can digest only rice and potatoes, sometimes boiled chicken, my joints hurt, I have diarrhea. Now I have a new symptoms toothache, nerve pain, anxiety and brain fog.
I am happy I found your side which is encouraging but I honestly from time to time think, I won’t be able to hold this. I am now in a process of finding a new doctor. It’s very hard because that doctor is a big specialist here and everyone likes him. I will have to find a doctor in a completely new city, which makes it much harder.
Doctors don’t know much about these atbs here and think that they make no harm to people so I can’t even talk about it.
After I reported the pills, people from our local health community made a statement for the doctors on the website, that these pills should be used only if all the other antibiotics fail, because they are very strong and dangerous. My now ex doctor said he has no time to read such a nonsense :/.
Just wanted to thank you for the website where I can find information, otherwise I would be completely lost.
I am interested to find out if anyone has tried Ozone Therapy. I read somewhere that it can boost immune system and improve symptoms of Fluoroquinolones side effects
Thanks Barbara.
I have been looking into a number of places but they mainly appear to be beauty clinics not necessarily official private clinics. Thank you again for taking your time to respond.
I’m taking 600mg of Magnesium Glycinate each today together with probably about 500mg Magnesium Oil rubbed on my body before I go to bed. At present, my pain and symptoms over most of my body are minimal but I’m most concerned about my eyes; my sight prescription has changed and I experience soreness that I think comes from the surrounding muscles/ligaments etc. I read somewhere though I can’t remember now where that most magnesium supplements don’t have any effect above the neckline. If that’s true, I wonder how best to treat the effects of toxicity on my eyes and whether there are specific magnesium supplements that would help the brain, eyes etc better than most. Any advice, please?
Hi guys,
Yesterday I thought about your words. I wrote detailed complain to the hospital management. The doctor read it and called my mum (I don’t understand why my mum). He told her he is willing to help me but I HAVE TO TAKE ANOTHER COURSE OF THESE ANTIBOTICS! He will probably deny everything I complained about and I will be back where I was. No one believes me, only my mum. But still I have nothing to lose.
Unfortunately I am not really sure what to do, because I can barely eat, how long can I live like this? I am trying to do everything suggested but I am losing hope. I am extremely weak. Other doctors would take me maybe in 6 months – they have so many patients (I mean the better doctors). Hospital won’t take me as I don’t have recommendation. It’s said my country has one of the best health care system (and also free) in the Europe but probably not for me. I usually pay for everything in the clinics and it’s not cheap (you only don’t pay in the hospitals) + the mandatory health insurance. Plus no one knows how dangerous are these antibiotics here.
Veteran floxie here. 7 years coming Jan. Still continue to have symptoms. Have cycles every several months. My recent cycle began with severe night sweats similar to my original floxing. Now, I feel fatigued, GI is off the wall, nerve pains all over like I am being bitten by bees, ankle pains, Achilles tendon insertion site pains… Sleep disorder is back and so is the anxiety, not to the same degree as the past, but strong enough to see my life change from routine. I have come to the conclusion that I will never be back to normal health and that what is going on is really an autoimmune illness that was triggered by CIPRO. Mitochondrial damage, Magnesium depletion, oxidative stress, etc. sound reasonable, but they don’t explain the chronic, cyclic nature of this poisoning. I am highly certain that what was triggered was Lupus-like Illness. It’s the only illness that makes medical sense.
Cipropoisoned. Did you ever feel you recovered? You say you have cycles every several months. So do you have months of feeling recovered and normal??
Here an article about fluoride in medicines,and the horror it causes:
https://rense.com/general12/fl.htm