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Andrea Smith
4 years ago
Hello everyone I need your help please. I had absolutely no idea these came with dangers. I had an RX here for UTI years ago. Over the past 4 weeks I have had a uti coming back on. Recently I began taking cipro. I think I have taken 7 pills total over the course of 4 weeks. After taking half a pill last night I got on the internet and to my horror and found the warning. I read taking magnesium and calcium right after can block it. I have drank milk, taken tums and also several magnesium tabs. Is there any chance that I may have haulted any damage from the last pill because I quickly took magnesium and calcium? I had absolutely no idea about the toxicity or I would have never taken it. This is horrifying. So far I do not feel any negative affects
Dee
4 years ago
Lukasz, I’ve read your recovery story and seen your postings these past 2.5 years since I was floxed. I know you have been through a lot of ups and downs and struggles trying to recover. How are you doing now?? Are things improving for you? Do you feel you are making progress and moving forward?? I pray that day by day, week by week and month by month your body is healing more and more!!
Lukasz
4 years ago
Well, that didn’t take long. Vitamin D3 or K2 is giving me some serious depression / anxiety symptoms. I started with one drop each and been working my way up these last few days and the result is not good. Even have loud, electrical tinnitus occurring as I write this. Body’s not happy. I wonder which one is the culprit. Have any of you experienced problems with either vitamin?
Dee
4 years ago
Lukasz, I am glad to hear that you are slowly continuing to improve and heal. I know it is slow for you but you are moving forward in your recovery and I believe in time you will feel closer and closer like your old self again! You do a lot to help yourself and with patience you will get there. As far as me I was doing pretty well and felt 80/85% better after 2.5 years BUT as you probably read I had 2 small lidocaine shots to remove a couple benign skin growths and all hell broke loose. The shots were 6 weeks ago and it ramped up my neuropathy and gave me itchy skin and random itchy red bumps popping up here and there. It hasn’t let up yet and is starting to worry me that it won’t go away. I can’t imagine that I am still reacting to the lidocaine 6 weeks later?? I’m thinking the lidocaine triggered some kind of FQ flare or relapse? I don’t know what to do for the itching and red bumps???? Anyway if that would let up I would feel much closer to getting close to “normal”!! I’m 63 so I’m probably not going to bounce back as fast. I just want this itchy skin issue to be done and leave. I’m scared it won’t go away. I Keep holding out hope that eventually it will. Let’s keep the faith and keep getting better. I hate setbacks and flareups. It is discouraging and frustrating. Anyway trying to stay positive.
Henk Noordhuizen
4 years ago
Today Dr.Mercola has a very interesting article about Molecular Hydrogen,with lots of info about ROS and other,related subjects.Good Read for Lisa,Krabiwi and others who like a bit of science,but might be a bit too complicated for some of us:
Very interesting website;I get updates in my mailbox,once a month and most of the time their info and actions are great!
Attsy
4 years ago
Hi, just want to let you know that I finally find a naturopath! And also I have a very good physio now, so I don’t have that enormous back pain anymore. I also almost get rid of trigeminal neuralgia by using CBD oil. Unfortunately my gut is not in good form. I catch stomach bug very often from people around me and don’t accept most of the painkillers. I wanted to get tested for SIBO but couldn’t find a doctor to do it. Also my thyroid went really bad and it was not that bad 1 year ago, my body is not accepting the thyroid medication – I have all the side effects. But at least I have to admit that I don’t suffer the whole body pain as I did before. So I sleep finally well. If the stomach issues are gone I could say I would be fine. Out of desperation I tried SSRI – which only resulted in more pain and weight loss. I am trying now the best probiotic in our market so I hope to get some results. The progress is very slow though. I have not found a doctor who would believe that antibiotics could mess with gut flora, which I still find a bit strange. How are all of you doing? Anything new which helped you in recovery? I have not been here for a few months.
Larry Geiger
4 years ago
Hello So how many of you have aortic involvement and if so how much cipro was taken?
David Pollard
4 years ago
I’m so glad that I now see some realization that those of us who were floxed had magnesium leeched out of us at the mitochondrial level. It’s magnesium ! The reality continues to be that every fluoroquinolone symptom is directly related to magnesium deficiency. Do some research. I’ve been floxed twice. In both cases 800 mg a day reversed symptoms over a few months. The longer you wait before loading up on magnesium, the longer you wait for recovery and the more likely your connective tissue in your heart, lungs, tendons will deteriorate. I was unable to take a step and neuropathy and tendon damage made it impossible to even unplug a toaster. I’m now fully recovered. My integrative medicine practitioner and family doctor agreed that magnesium was the culprit. Blood tests won’t show this because only one percent of your magnesium is in your blood.
In addition, new studies show that tetracycline 200 mg a day prevents the destruction of connective tissue. Canadian physicians are becoming more savvy on how to treat this debilitating illness.
David Pollard
4 years ago
Just in case you were wondering why epsom salt baths are so helpful. That’s because you are literally sitting in a MAGNESIUM bath. When Epsom salts are dissolved in water they release magnesium and sulfate ions.
David Pollard
4 years ago
The symptoms you mention were caused by a lack of magnesium. Once the damage has occurred you will need other therapies and supplements. Specialists in this area are in agreement. You are experiencing these symptoms because of a magnesium deficiency. If you didn’t get direction to start a magnesium regimen immediately, you will have complications. It is the magic bullet if started immediately in large doses. Trust me …. I’ve seen the best specialists in the field of mitochondrial depletion.
Don M
4 years ago
Just a heads up to anyone who is plagued with Interstitial Cystitis or any other painful bladder problems. Freeze dried Aloe Vera is said to work against this problem. Desert Harvest has a freeze dried Aloe product that they claim is the strongest on the market. Their product is also expensive but I found that by contacting the company directly they have several discounts that can materially lower the price. They discount to active and retired military personnel, those on Medicare or Medicaid, and several other discounts. Also volume discounts too. If you are looking for a product check out this one and compare the discounted prices. Maybe the best is not that expensive.
Lukasz
4 years ago
Another puzzle to solve…
Is there a way to resolve FQ damage in the vicinity of the eye socket? My right eye was severely impacted from day 1 and it continues to bother me to this day, including at present moment. The damage seems to be just below the eye itself, just above my cheekbone. I use the word “damage” because I don’t know if it’s nerve-related or what. Even the eye feels like it might have suffered damage from the FQ. Is there any natural methods to remedy this?
Larry
4 years ago
I’ve read a lot of stories about people getting and recovering from nerve damage on this site. No one mentions strange changes in temperature sensation. So I have the tingling, burning etc. all over my body. I can still feel hot and cold but they feel strange. Not normal. Can anyone relate?
In the early months of getting poisoned, I also had a numb mouth which left me with no sense of taste or smell. Fortunately that has come back, but my parts of my lips still tingle and the left side of my tongue. Never heard anyone speak of this either. Any insights?
Andrea
4 years ago
Hey everyone. First I wanted to let you all know I read through the stories on the side bar and while it was devastating to read it gave me some hope that some of you have found recovery. My heart goes out to each and every one of you who has been affected by this poison.
With that being said when I posted a few days ago I was in full hysteria mode. I have tried to calm myself down and one silver lining was as I was going to bed and glanced down at the floor I saw I had at one point dropped a half of Cipro that must have been on my night stand. So that means I have 250 less of that poison in me. I am guesstimating now that I had ingested approximately 6.5 tablets over a 4 week period. I continue to pray.
So my question to you all is what supplements are you taking and did you have to wait for a few weeks after you ingested your flox- cipro or did you get on it right away? I started the magnesium straight away. I went to the health food store and got magnesium salts and something called nature calm it’s a magnesium drink. I also take Ester C. For the past few years I have been taking a daily multiple vitamin, a little magnesium here and there, zinc, 1000ui of Vitamin D3 in the winter months, a probiotic, and when I am good about it, an eye vitamin. Since I found out about toxicity of Cipro I kind went mildly mental. I was not sure if I should continue the other vitamins, stop everything or what. If there a link around for what are the good supplements to take? I did find a few sites but seems everyone is taking slightly different things.
For those of you who suffer the nerve damage from burning skin or painful skin sensations have you explored nasal b12? Sublingual does not work well. For years I have used a product that is a nasal b12 spray. I use it very little as it is strong. I had my b12 tested after using it and my b12 was off the charts so it goes right into the system.
My husband who generally prays more quietly actually said let’s pray. And while I am not the most religious person out there I also prayed for all of you that your days improve and that your quality of life returns if not to normal, to something manageable. I have become a firm believer that I will not ingest another RX unless my life depends on it. Which brings me to another question. If you all come down with an infection that does not improve, or if you experience severe pain what antibiotic or pain reliever would you consider? I have thrown away all of my advil in the garbage.
Michael
4 years ago
I have had extremely good results on my neuropathy with Bioptron light therapy. Jan 1 will mark 24 weeks from when I took my last Cipro tab and at present I have only minimal neuropathy symptoms while taking just gabapentin 300m three times per day and clonidine 25micrograms three times per day. I was able to come off the nortriptyline. I keep praying every day. Hope everybody is doing OK. I am also taking P-5-P, methyclobalamin and metafolin.
John
4 years ago
I was wondering what u all think about fasting in helping restore cels for the floxed? Ive been reading and watching a lot of people saying how it can help the body heal on a cellular level. Personally, I have been trying it, fasting 48 hrs about once a month since June. Ive also mixed in some intermediate fasting. Ive lost weight and feel ok, but im not really doing it for weight loss, im doing it mainly to help my body heal. The weight loss is just a positive side effect. I cant really say if its helping or not, has anybody else tried it? Thanks.
Henk Noordhuizen
4 years ago
Today,Mercola has a good article about new insights in the importance,and the myth about vit.C.Usefull info for Floexies,e.g. vitamin C is not only a vitamin,but also works as an antihistamin.This might be usefull for those with “autoimmune” reactions.
Does anyone have information about Acetyl l carnatine and FQ induced nerve damage? Studies show it can make some types of chemo nerve damage worse. Not sure about FQ. I’ve been on it for 3 weeks now and haven’t noticed a change in symptoms.
Hello everyone I need your help please. I had absolutely no idea these came with dangers. I had an RX here for UTI years ago. Over the past 4 weeks I have had a uti coming back on. Recently I began taking cipro. I think I have taken 7 pills total over the course of 4 weeks. After taking half a pill last night I got on the internet and to my horror and found the warning. I read taking magnesium and calcium right after can block it. I have drank milk, taken tums and also several magnesium tabs. Is there any chance that I may have haulted any damage from the last pill because I quickly took magnesium and calcium? I had absolutely no idea about the toxicity or I would have never taken it. This is horrifying. So far I do not feel any negative affects
Lukasz, I’ve read your recovery story and seen your postings these past 2.5 years since I was floxed. I know you have been through a lot of ups and downs and struggles trying to recover. How are you doing now?? Are things improving for you? Do you feel you are making progress and moving forward?? I pray that day by day, week by week and month by month your body is healing more and more!!
Well, that didn’t take long. Vitamin D3 or K2 is giving me some serious depression / anxiety symptoms. I started with one drop each and been working my way up these last few days and the result is not good. Even have loud, electrical tinnitus occurring as I write this. Body’s not happy. I wonder which one is the culprit. Have any of you experienced problems with either vitamin?
Lukasz, I am glad to hear that you are slowly continuing to improve and heal. I know it is slow for you but you are moving forward in your recovery and I believe in time you will feel closer and closer like your old self again! You do a lot to help yourself and with patience you will get there. As far as me I was doing pretty well and felt 80/85% better after 2.5 years BUT as you probably read I had 2 small lidocaine shots to remove a couple benign skin growths and all hell broke loose. The shots were 6 weeks ago and it ramped up my neuropathy and gave me itchy skin and random itchy red bumps popping up here and there. It hasn’t let up yet and is starting to worry me that it won’t go away. I can’t imagine that I am still reacting to the lidocaine 6 weeks later?? I’m thinking the lidocaine triggered some kind of FQ flare or relapse? I don’t know what to do for the itching and red bumps???? Anyway if that would let up I would feel much closer to getting close to “normal”!! I’m 63 so I’m probably not going to bounce back as fast. I just want this itchy skin issue to be done and leave. I’m scared it won’t go away. I Keep holding out hope that eventually it will. Let’s keep the faith and keep getting better. I hate setbacks and flareups. It is discouraging and frustrating. Anyway trying to stay positive.
Today Dr.Mercola has a very interesting article about Molecular Hydrogen,with lots of info about ROS and other,related subjects.Good Read for Lisa,Krabiwi and others who like a bit of science,but might be a bit too complicated for some of us:
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2019/12/13/molecular-hydrogen-athletic-performance.aspx?cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20191213Z2&et_cid=DM408149&et_rid=768576389
A good insight into the drugs market,and how it’s manipulated in legal and illegal ways:
https://openmarketsinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/191125_WhitePaper_v4.pdf
Very interesting website;I get updates in my mailbox,once a month and most of the time their info and actions are great!
Hi, just want to let you know that I finally find a naturopath! And also I have a very good physio now, so I don’t have that enormous back pain anymore. I also almost get rid of trigeminal neuralgia by using CBD oil. Unfortunately my gut is not in good form. I catch stomach bug very often from people around me and don’t accept most of the painkillers. I wanted to get tested for SIBO but couldn’t find a doctor to do it. Also my thyroid went really bad and it was not that bad 1 year ago, my body is not accepting the thyroid medication – I have all the side effects. But at least I have to admit that I don’t suffer the whole body pain as I did before. So I sleep finally well. If the stomach issues are gone I could say I would be fine. Out of desperation I tried SSRI – which only resulted in more pain and weight loss. I am trying now the best probiotic in our market so I hope to get some results. The progress is very slow though. I have not found a doctor who would believe that antibiotics could mess with gut flora, which I still find a bit strange. How are all of you doing? Anything new which helped you in recovery? I have not been here for a few months.
Hello So how many of you have aortic involvement and if so how much cipro was taken?
I’m so glad that I now see some realization that those of us who were floxed had magnesium leeched out of us at the mitochondrial level. It’s magnesium ! The reality continues to be that every fluoroquinolone symptom is directly related to magnesium deficiency. Do some research. I’ve been floxed twice. In both cases 800 mg a day reversed symptoms over a few months. The longer you wait before loading up on magnesium, the longer you wait for recovery and the more likely your connective tissue in your heart, lungs, tendons will deteriorate. I was unable to take a step and neuropathy and tendon damage made it impossible to even unplug a toaster. I’m now fully recovered. My integrative medicine practitioner and family doctor agreed that magnesium was the culprit. Blood tests won’t show this because only one percent of your magnesium is in your blood.
In addition, new studies show that tetracycline 200 mg a day prevents the destruction of connective tissue. Canadian physicians are becoming more savvy on how to treat this debilitating illness.
Just in case you were wondering why epsom salt baths are so helpful. That’s because you are literally sitting in a MAGNESIUM bath. When Epsom salts are dissolved in water they release magnesium and sulfate ions.
The symptoms you mention were caused by a lack of magnesium. Once the damage has occurred you will need other therapies and supplements. Specialists in this area are in agreement. You are experiencing these symptoms because of a magnesium deficiency. If you didn’t get direction to start a magnesium regimen immediately, you will have complications. It is the magic bullet if started immediately in large doses. Trust me …. I’ve seen the best specialists in the field of mitochondrial depletion.
Just a heads up to anyone who is plagued with Interstitial Cystitis or any other painful bladder problems. Freeze dried Aloe Vera is said to work against this problem. Desert Harvest has a freeze dried Aloe product that they claim is the strongest on the market. Their product is also expensive but I found that by contacting the company directly they have several discounts that can materially lower the price. They discount to active and retired military personnel, those on Medicare or Medicaid, and several other discounts. Also volume discounts too. If you are looking for a product check out this one and compare the discounted prices. Maybe the best is not that expensive.
Another puzzle to solve…
Is there a way to resolve FQ damage in the vicinity of the eye socket? My right eye was severely impacted from day 1 and it continues to bother me to this day, including at present moment. The damage seems to be just below the eye itself, just above my cheekbone. I use the word “damage” because I don’t know if it’s nerve-related or what. Even the eye feels like it might have suffered damage from the FQ. Is there any natural methods to remedy this?
I’ve read a lot of stories about people getting and recovering from nerve damage on this site. No one mentions strange changes in temperature sensation. So I have the tingling, burning etc. all over my body. I can still feel hot and cold but they feel strange. Not normal. Can anyone relate?
In the early months of getting poisoned, I also had a numb mouth which left me with no sense of taste or smell. Fortunately that has come back, but my parts of my lips still tingle and the left side of my tongue. Never heard anyone speak of this either. Any insights?
Hey everyone. First I wanted to let you all know I read through the stories on the side bar and while it was devastating to read it gave me some hope that some of you have found recovery. My heart goes out to each and every one of you who has been affected by this poison.
With that being said when I posted a few days ago I was in full hysteria mode. I have tried to calm myself down and one silver lining was as I was going to bed and glanced down at the floor I saw I had at one point dropped a half of Cipro that must have been on my night stand. So that means I have 250 less of that poison in me. I am guesstimating now that I had ingested approximately 6.5 tablets over a 4 week period. I continue to pray.
So my question to you all is what supplements are you taking and did you have to wait for a few weeks after you ingested your flox- cipro or did you get on it right away? I started the magnesium straight away. I went to the health food store and got magnesium salts and something called nature calm it’s a magnesium drink. I also take Ester C. For the past few years I have been taking a daily multiple vitamin, a little magnesium here and there, zinc, 1000ui of Vitamin D3 in the winter months, a probiotic, and when I am good about it, an eye vitamin. Since I found out about toxicity of Cipro I kind went mildly mental. I was not sure if I should continue the other vitamins, stop everything or what. If there a link around for what are the good supplements to take? I did find a few sites but seems everyone is taking slightly different things.
For those of you who suffer the nerve damage from burning skin or painful skin sensations have you explored nasal b12? Sublingual does not work well. For years I have used a product that is a nasal b12 spray. I use it very little as it is strong. I had my b12 tested after using it and my b12 was off the charts so it goes right into the system.
My husband who generally prays more quietly actually said let’s pray. And while I am not the most religious person out there I also prayed for all of you that your days improve and that your quality of life returns if not to normal, to something manageable. I have become a firm believer that I will not ingest another RX unless my life depends on it. Which brings me to another question. If you all come down with an infection that does not improve, or if you experience severe pain what antibiotic or pain reliever would you consider? I have thrown away all of my advil in the garbage.
I have had extremely good results on my neuropathy with Bioptron light therapy. Jan 1 will mark 24 weeks from when I took my last Cipro tab and at present I have only minimal neuropathy symptoms while taking just gabapentin 300m three times per day and clonidine 25micrograms three times per day. I was able to come off the nortriptyline. I keep praying every day. Hope everybody is doing OK. I am also taking P-5-P, methyclobalamin and metafolin.
I was wondering what u all think about fasting in helping restore cels for the floxed? Ive been reading and watching a lot of people saying how it can help the body heal on a cellular level. Personally, I have been trying it, fasting 48 hrs about once a month since June. Ive also mixed in some intermediate fasting. Ive lost weight and feel ok, but im not really doing it for weight loss, im doing it mainly to help my body heal. The weight loss is just a positive side effect. I cant really say if its helping or not, has anybody else tried it? Thanks.
Today,Mercola has a good article about new insights in the importance,and the myth about vit.C.Usefull info for Floexies,e.g. vitamin C is not only a vitamin,but also works as an antihistamin.This might be usefull for those with “autoimmune” reactions.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2019/12/16/vitamin-c-health-effects.aspx?cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20191216Z2&et_cid=DM413022&et_rid=770507658
A funny book review of ‘Every Therapy Book Ever Written’
https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/11/20/book-review-all-therapy-books/
Does anyone have information about Acetyl l carnatine and FQ induced nerve damage? Studies show it can make some types of chemo nerve damage worse. Not sure about FQ. I’ve been on it for 3 weeks now and haven’t noticed a change in symptoms.