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dannnnnnni
10 years ago
sorry about the nnnnnnnnn’s
rene
10 years ago
Friends,
Wow. Bayer maker of CiPRO & all things toxic has just sued the European Commission to overturn a ban on the pesticides that are killing millions of bees around the world. A huge public push won this landmark ban only months ago — and we can’t sit back and let Big Pesticide overturn it while the bees vanish.
Just last month, 37 million bees were discovered dead on a single Canadian farm. And unless we act now, the bees will keep dying by the millions. We have to show Bayer now that we won’t tolerate it putting its profits ahead of our planet’s health. If this giant corporation manages to bully Europe into submission, it would spell disaster for the bees.
Thanks lise! I have learned to have a positive mindset after a while of diseases. It sucks I might be dealing with another major problem, but at least I have the chance to fight these things. Some people never even gets the chance. I strongly believe in the law of attraction. I have evidence of it happening to me many times in my life. When I was in my last year of college I wasn’t able to find a really amazing girl. In the beginning of that year I start truly believing and talking to other people that during the end of the school year some amazing girl would come up to me and talk me and sweep me off my feet.. and I truly believed it.. Well, low and behold.. .during the last quarter of my college.. A girl came up to me and said hey are you new here? and we ended up going out and it was the first love of my live. Also back when I was 18, I was a bit of a hypochondriac.. I truly would always believe that one day I will get an illness.. and I kept those thought patters constantly.. and shortly a year after when I was 20.. I got bit by a tic and contracted three diseases… It’s crazy.. When I was taking these medications, I knew there were risks, and I believed that I would have a reaction to them and I did…. So in my opinion, I feel I should start using that way of thinking for positive things and start attracting what I want in my life. I believe I will recover from this 100 percent. Yes I think I floxed, but I can still walk and do daily activities, my mind still works… To me, I believe my body will heal, and i believe I will eventually heal from my other diseases, and I will be able to talk and help other people about this. I feel these things happened to me for a reason.. I appreciate so many things and I never thought twice about..
Good luck to everyone, please remember your mind is a lot more powerful than you think. Have you guys noticed the ones that usually end up healing or recovering are typically those that truly believed they would get better? yet the ones who would always focus on what’s wrong and that they will never fully recover usually end up being sick… It you really look at it hard, you’ll notice a pattern.
Stay strong everyone :)… You can all heal way more than you think… our bodies are amazing, and we live in the future were ten years from now we might have some amazing advancements in health that may heal all of you.
Mark
10 years ago
Question to all Cipro patients with longterm issues (yeah I know lol who doesn’t):
Did you all take Cipro, Levaquin, etc or what did you take exactly.
And at Jimmy, Melanie and all other relapsers (is that even a word?):
Did you take magnesium during the time when the relapse happened?
If so how much exactly and what kind?
Thanks,
Mark
Daniela
10 years ago
I refloxed after two years of horrible symptoms and only one month of relief. A tooth suddenly broke (so maybe I hadn’t been in remission) and I relapsed immediately from the dental anesthesia injection. The people at USCD said articaine and epinephrine heighten cipro toxicity. I also found on dental catalogues that they impregnate dental pieces with Cipro to ward off infections, so that could have been involved as well. Two years after that, tendinosis, stiffness and snapping suddenly ramped up significantly, and I have no idea why except to think that I had switched to GAPS/SCD/Wahls a year before and I had started eating cipro laden beef and chicken. I do control symptoms now with an organic Gaps AND no diary diet, coupled with gentle hatha yoga, turmeric/oil massage and lavender essential oil, when hopefully I get a good source for it. I hope to find a vegetarian solution soon.
Pam swain
10 years ago
Deathly sick attacked nervous system total chemical sensitivity
t bryan
10 years ago
I took 3 doses of Cipro and now I barely function. I still work but my whole personality has changed. I am afraid be with other people and afraid to be alone. So far mainly CNS symptoms. My eyes are so dry, i can’t even cry anymore. Something I want to do most of all. My mouth so dry, i have to battle thrush. I am suicidal even though I have a wonderful husband and 2 beautiful children. Don’t know how to make it or be hopeful. Please help me see some hope. Sorry to bring everyone down, I can’t face the other sites. I hate my kids seeing me this way.
Daniela
10 years ago
If you can beat the mental stuff, you can do anything. I remember sitting a few months ago against an ice pack because I pulled something so bad in my back, but I was smiling because I had just found the perfect spot!
That’s why we have pictures in our wallets and on our walls, to look at and see a person, a memory, and get that flood of happiness. If you are going through the emotional side of this toxicity, try to develop those things. It’s like an exercise, you can build it like a muscle, work on reminding yourself of the good things and notice the good feelings that flow through your body. You can learn to turn that on in any circumstance, and once you learn that ability, it belongs to you and it really works!
t bryan
10 years ago
It has almost been 2 months and my depression is getting worse, but I am afraid to take medication or herbs. I have gastroparesis from before and now I have lost 13 lbs in 3 weeks and my stomach can’t handle much. I was taking magnesium but it was causing worse stomach problems. I was on Xanax before this and now I am faced with the fear of how to taper off without prolonging the suffering or increasing the anxiety to non workable levels. I am the primary wage earner in the family. The anxiety and fear bites to the core. I walk outside and can calm myself and clear the fog only to have earth shattering anxiety out of the blue about something small. I love my children and husband, but it seems like I can’t see any happiness anymore. The constant ringing in my ears just serves to remind me how different I am…It is like I am watching others from some other place. Right now even the past seems like someone else. I tried to read on meditation and anxiety control, hopefully I will learn how to visualize. Thanks for responding. I need to pull myself together. Of course, all my Doctors have just said I was depressed and to start antidepressants. If it would help, maybe….but I am so afraid. I can barely get myself to the doctor. I first lost some hearing/had tinnitus and took prednisone before I realized what had happened. Now I am just scared of what will happen next, what more have i harmed.
t bryan
10 years ago
Thanks everyone. Tomorrow I am supposed to get a CT scan of my abdomen and neck area. I am scared of the dyes. I looked at the Quin report and it seemed ok, but I have made so many mistakes so far. I don’t know what is wrong with my stomach and can’t afford to get much smaller than I am. This is not my Gastroparesis like symptoms. It is like I don’t absorb nutrients anymore. Anyone have the test done? I can’t even get the thrush in my mouth under control and now I have a cyst in my mouth and multiple swollen glands in neck. That means another ENT visit. I don’t think I can handle many more doctor visits….so stressful. And they don’t listen. I was supposed to get MRI of brain but couldn’t go through with it. The weight loss scares me. I have been eating more than ever to prevent weight loss, but it falls off anyway.
melanie kemp
10 years ago
Hi T.
So sorry you are going through this. I was floxed 4 years ago and did recover but unfortunately have been in a relapse for 6 months now. I have lost 50 pounds at this point. I am not taking in nutrients obviously. I started on some essential oils today to try and repair my gut. I’m hoping it works. Ive tried probiotics but didn’t have much if any effect. so I fully understand the concern over weight loss.
I don’t know what to tell you about the contrast. If it where me I wouldn’t do the dye..but that’s just me. I;m not trying to scare you but be really careful about what you do. I have a floxy friend that did an MRI with contrast and hasn’t been the same since (7 years) Is it possible to do without? If so then id go that route.
melanie kemp
10 years ago
The problem is most tests come back negative. I had tons of them in 2010.. gallons of blood work taken.. nothing ever showed up. I know it eases our minds that its nothing terrible but most tests come back ok. If it can be done without contrast id do it..if not I wouldn’t but that’s me. You never know what a floxy body will react to.
Lorna
10 years ago
Hi yes I did have vision issues, I was a pretty terrible case. All my problems are now physical, all the mental issues resolved after around 6-8 months sometimes I get a little down but ithi k that’s understandable. My lower back (sacroiliac) literally pops and so does my left knee. I have pits and dents in the muscle. But at one point I couldn’t walk. I couldn’t think. Speaking was even hard I’d cry get confused, I had huge black floaters in my vision and couldn’t even move my eyes without shooting pain in my head/eye area. I don’t really have any issues with my eyes now except when I first wake up one eye what I see is darker than the other or when I get really tired eyes get a little blurry. I think personally I’m going to leave it maybe a few more moths and see where I am then, if recovery stories are 80-90 percent on here. I’m not quite there yet but this time last year I was convinced that was it and I am truly happy to hae my mind back and be here with my family. 🙂 I know what you are all going through. We will make it, together!!!
rich
10 years ago
so strange that floxed have floaters go away… ive always had one from pre flox but got used to that in time…..I know most people have at least one floxed or not……….my vision is generally ok just seems weaker than what it was and like im straining to see maybe….just off…….the pain and yellow flashes is gone though for the most part im in month 4….. I think the dry eyes have just started and may be the reason for the bad vision….
So, I have a new issue and not sure if it is related or not. Been having awful (far more painful that the usual) back pain for the past week. Had an MRI yesterday as it isn’t letting up.
Well got my results. I guess MRI isn’t the absolute best way to diagnose certain things but what was found is –
A grade 3 annular tear with prominent bulging disc. Also, moderate facet arthritis. She also believe I have SI joint dysfunction (was not part of the MRI and takes a pretty involved procedure to diagnose).
She (chiro) is referring me to a pain management doctor for a consult.
Annular tears can take 18-24 months to heal and can cause a lot of pain as it heals. They can do epidurals and various injections in the meantime (which I do not want to do). I don’t know what my options will be but I will go for the consult. I can say I do not really know what all of this means but it does suck.
She knows of everything I have been through and she thinks it is somewhat related and that I just do not heal very well because of the toxicity. But she also said that if I wasn’t doing everything I have been (epsom baths, exercise, supplements, chiro work) that I probably wouldn’t be walking right now. So, I guess there’s that.
Well everyone,
I have good news. I am now able to walk with the aid of a cane. Sometimes with out a cane. My reactive arthritis is getting better but now I have tendon pain I know I always had it but the pain in the knees and ankles and elbows etc. Just covered it up.
The Hydroxychloroquine is doing it’s job so far. The new diet seems to be helping. Terry Wahls diet.
I still have the strange face and scalp rash which my Doctor said it is from Cipro. Anyway
I’ll let everyone know things are going,
Hey just a thought. Has anyone tried a vitamin C bath? I jut started and it seems to help.
You take 1 to 2 tablespoons of crystallized ascorbic acid in a hot bath. I alternate this bath with the epson salt bath.
Hi, am just checking in to tell you that I’m recovering from my second poisoning – nowhere near what I was and still have lots of bad effects, especially tremor in hands and lower arms when I try to do anything at all delicate or controlled and tinnitus, my heart is definitely not in the best form but heigh-ho, I’m 67 and haven’t had an easy time, ever, so woyldn’t expect to be in top form, but the worst effects have nearly gone, as long as I’m a bt careful, and certainlyhy I’m once again smiling and able to enjoy life.
As usual, I used homeopathy, Dr. Schulze’s Superfood Plus and a few herbs and spices, but not in silly capsules – in my food or just eaten plain. I also concentrate on what I can d ofor others, especially for animals and nature (what’s left of nature) rather than brooding over my own misfortunes and state of ill-health.
Life seems very precious now and am grateful to be here instead of just longing for it to be over.
I shan’t be writing here again, or very seldom, but wantd to let you know that one has greater powers f recuperation than one believes.
Paulie
10 years ago
You couldn’t make it up. 18 months post and I’m taking Ramipril to control the Levaquin induced high blood pressure. Did I tell you about the heart arrythmia as well?? Latest is angioedema of the face and latterly the throat. Thats right, choking. This on top of all the run-of-the-mill symptoms, tendinitis, dry eye, etc etc. Despite this I am still walking around, working, doing my thing. I have to, my family needs feeding. However this drug has left me pretty much in constant fear of death or serious injury in so many ways. Levaquin is the drug. Death. Perhaps the words will show up together in some Google search and make someone else think twice. I was a healthy guy, running and cycling only 2 years ago. Just wondering how much longer till I hit the bottom.
sorry about the nnnnnnnnn’s
Friends,
Wow. Bayer maker of CiPRO & all things toxic has just sued the European Commission to overturn a ban on the pesticides that are killing millions of bees around the world. A huge public push won this landmark ban only months ago — and we can’t sit back and let Big Pesticide overturn it while the bees vanish.
Just last month, 37 million bees were discovered dead on a single Canadian farm. And unless we act now, the bees will keep dying by the millions. We have to show Bayer now that we won’t tolerate it putting its profits ahead of our planet’s health. If this giant corporation manages to bully Europe into submission, it would spell disaster for the bees.
Please join me in signing the petition to tell Bayer and Syngenta to drop their bee-killing lawsuits now.
http://action.sumofus.org/a/bayer-bees-lawsuit/?sub=taf
Thanks lise! I have learned to have a positive mindset after a while of diseases. It sucks I might be dealing with another major problem, but at least I have the chance to fight these things. Some people never even gets the chance. I strongly believe in the law of attraction. I have evidence of it happening to me many times in my life. When I was in my last year of college I wasn’t able to find a really amazing girl. In the beginning of that year I start truly believing and talking to other people that during the end of the school year some amazing girl would come up to me and talk me and sweep me off my feet.. and I truly believed it.. Well, low and behold.. .during the last quarter of my college.. A girl came up to me and said hey are you new here? and we ended up going out and it was the first love of my live. Also back when I was 18, I was a bit of a hypochondriac.. I truly would always believe that one day I will get an illness.. and I kept those thought patters constantly.. and shortly a year after when I was 20.. I got bit by a tic and contracted three diseases… It’s crazy.. When I was taking these medications, I knew there were risks, and I believed that I would have a reaction to them and I did…. So in my opinion, I feel I should start using that way of thinking for positive things and start attracting what I want in my life. I believe I will recover from this 100 percent. Yes I think I floxed, but I can still walk and do daily activities, my mind still works… To me, I believe my body will heal, and i believe I will eventually heal from my other diseases, and I will be able to talk and help other people about this. I feel these things happened to me for a reason.. I appreciate so many things and I never thought twice about..
Good luck to everyone, please remember your mind is a lot more powerful than you think. Have you guys noticed the ones that usually end up healing or recovering are typically those that truly believed they would get better? yet the ones who would always focus on what’s wrong and that they will never fully recover usually end up being sick… It you really look at it hard, you’ll notice a pattern.
Stay strong everyone :)… You can all heal way more than you think… our bodies are amazing, and we live in the future were ten years from now we might have some amazing advancements in health that may heal all of you.
Question to all Cipro patients with longterm issues (yeah I know lol who doesn’t):
Did you all take Cipro, Levaquin, etc or what did you take exactly.
And at Jimmy, Melanie and all other relapsers (is that even a word?):
Did you take magnesium during the time when the relapse happened?
If so how much exactly and what kind?
Thanks,
Mark
I refloxed after two years of horrible symptoms and only one month of relief. A tooth suddenly broke (so maybe I hadn’t been in remission) and I relapsed immediately from the dental anesthesia injection. The people at USCD said articaine and epinephrine heighten cipro toxicity. I also found on dental catalogues that they impregnate dental pieces with Cipro to ward off infections, so that could have been involved as well. Two years after that, tendinosis, stiffness and snapping suddenly ramped up significantly, and I have no idea why except to think that I had switched to GAPS/SCD/Wahls a year before and I had started eating cipro laden beef and chicken. I do control symptoms now with an organic Gaps AND no diary diet, coupled with gentle hatha yoga, turmeric/oil massage and lavender essential oil, when hopefully I get a good source for it. I hope to find a vegetarian solution soon.
Deathly sick attacked nervous system total chemical sensitivity
I took 3 doses of Cipro and now I barely function. I still work but my whole personality has changed. I am afraid be with other people and afraid to be alone. So far mainly CNS symptoms. My eyes are so dry, i can’t even cry anymore. Something I want to do most of all. My mouth so dry, i have to battle thrush. I am suicidal even though I have a wonderful husband and 2 beautiful children. Don’t know how to make it or be hopeful. Please help me see some hope. Sorry to bring everyone down, I can’t face the other sites. I hate my kids seeing me this way.
If you can beat the mental stuff, you can do anything. I remember sitting a few months ago against an ice pack because I pulled something so bad in my back, but I was smiling because I had just found the perfect spot!
That’s why we have pictures in our wallets and on our walls, to look at and see a person, a memory, and get that flood of happiness. If you are going through the emotional side of this toxicity, try to develop those things. It’s like an exercise, you can build it like a muscle, work on reminding yourself of the good things and notice the good feelings that flow through your body. You can learn to turn that on in any circumstance, and once you learn that ability, it belongs to you and it really works!
It has almost been 2 months and my depression is getting worse, but I am afraid to take medication or herbs. I have gastroparesis from before and now I have lost 13 lbs in 3 weeks and my stomach can’t handle much. I was taking magnesium but it was causing worse stomach problems. I was on Xanax before this and now I am faced with the fear of how to taper off without prolonging the suffering or increasing the anxiety to non workable levels. I am the primary wage earner in the family. The anxiety and fear bites to the core. I walk outside and can calm myself and clear the fog only to have earth shattering anxiety out of the blue about something small. I love my children and husband, but it seems like I can’t see any happiness anymore. The constant ringing in my ears just serves to remind me how different I am…It is like I am watching others from some other place. Right now even the past seems like someone else. I tried to read on meditation and anxiety control, hopefully I will learn how to visualize. Thanks for responding. I need to pull myself together. Of course, all my Doctors have just said I was depressed and to start antidepressants. If it would help, maybe….but I am so afraid. I can barely get myself to the doctor. I first lost some hearing/had tinnitus and took prednisone before I realized what had happened. Now I am just scared of what will happen next, what more have i harmed.
Thanks everyone. Tomorrow I am supposed to get a CT scan of my abdomen and neck area. I am scared of the dyes. I looked at the Quin report and it seemed ok, but I have made so many mistakes so far. I don’t know what is wrong with my stomach and can’t afford to get much smaller than I am. This is not my Gastroparesis like symptoms. It is like I don’t absorb nutrients anymore. Anyone have the test done? I can’t even get the thrush in my mouth under control and now I have a cyst in my mouth and multiple swollen glands in neck. That means another ENT visit. I don’t think I can handle many more doctor visits….so stressful. And they don’t listen. I was supposed to get MRI of brain but couldn’t go through with it. The weight loss scares me. I have been eating more than ever to prevent weight loss, but it falls off anyway.
Hi T.
So sorry you are going through this. I was floxed 4 years ago and did recover but unfortunately have been in a relapse for 6 months now. I have lost 50 pounds at this point. I am not taking in nutrients obviously. I started on some essential oils today to try and repair my gut. I’m hoping it works. Ive tried probiotics but didn’t have much if any effect. so I fully understand the concern over weight loss.
I don’t know what to tell you about the contrast. If it where me I wouldn’t do the dye..but that’s just me. I;m not trying to scare you but be really careful about what you do. I have a floxy friend that did an MRI with contrast and hasn’t been the same since (7 years) Is it possible to do without? If so then id go that route.
The problem is most tests come back negative. I had tons of them in 2010.. gallons of blood work taken.. nothing ever showed up. I know it eases our minds that its nothing terrible but most tests come back ok. If it can be done without contrast id do it..if not I wouldn’t but that’s me. You never know what a floxy body will react to.
Hi yes I did have vision issues, I was a pretty terrible case. All my problems are now physical, all the mental issues resolved after around 6-8 months sometimes I get a little down but ithi k that’s understandable. My lower back (sacroiliac) literally pops and so does my left knee. I have pits and dents in the muscle. But at one point I couldn’t walk. I couldn’t think. Speaking was even hard I’d cry get confused, I had huge black floaters in my vision and couldn’t even move my eyes without shooting pain in my head/eye area. I don’t really have any issues with my eyes now except when I first wake up one eye what I see is darker than the other or when I get really tired eyes get a little blurry. I think personally I’m going to leave it maybe a few more moths and see where I am then, if recovery stories are 80-90 percent on here. I’m not quite there yet but this time last year I was convinced that was it and I am truly happy to hae my mind back and be here with my family. 🙂 I know what you are all going through. We will make it, together!!!
so strange that floxed have floaters go away… ive always had one from pre flox but got used to that in time…..I know most people have at least one floxed or not……….my vision is generally ok just seems weaker than what it was and like im straining to see maybe….just off…….the pain and yellow flashes is gone though for the most part im in month 4….. I think the dry eyes have just started and may be the reason for the bad vision….
Here is another article.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/11/01/fluoroquinolone-antibiotic-side-effects.aspx
So, I have a new issue and not sure if it is related or not. Been having awful (far more painful that the usual) back pain for the past week. Had an MRI yesterday as it isn’t letting up.
Well got my results. I guess MRI isn’t the absolute best way to diagnose certain things but what was found is –
A grade 3 annular tear with prominent bulging disc. Also, moderate facet arthritis. She also believe I have SI joint dysfunction (was not part of the MRI and takes a pretty involved procedure to diagnose).
She (chiro) is referring me to a pain management doctor for a consult.
Annular tears can take 18-24 months to heal and can cause a lot of pain as it heals. They can do epidurals and various injections in the meantime (which I do not want to do). I don’t know what my options will be but I will go for the consult. I can say I do not really know what all of this means but it does suck.
She knows of everything I have been through and she thinks it is somewhat related and that I just do not heal very well because of the toxicity. But she also said that if I wasn’t doing everything I have been (epsom baths, exercise, supplements, chiro work) that I probably wouldn’t be walking right now. So, I guess there’s that.
I am so frustrated. I just want my body back.
Well everyone,
I have good news. I am now able to walk with the aid of a cane. Sometimes with out a cane. My reactive arthritis is getting better but now I have tendon pain I know I always had it but the pain in the knees and ankles and elbows etc. Just covered it up.
The Hydroxychloroquine is doing it’s job so far. The new diet seems to be helping. Terry Wahls diet.
I still have the strange face and scalp rash which my Doctor said it is from Cipro. Anyway
I’ll let everyone know things are going,
Hey just a thought. Has anyone tried a vitamin C bath? I jut started and it seems to help.
You take 1 to 2 tablespoons of crystallized ascorbic acid in a hot bath. I alternate this bath with the epson salt bath.
just a thought.
Hi, am just checking in to tell you that I’m recovering from my second poisoning – nowhere near what I was and still have lots of bad effects, especially tremor in hands and lower arms when I try to do anything at all delicate or controlled and tinnitus, my heart is definitely not in the best form but heigh-ho, I’m 67 and haven’t had an easy time, ever, so woyldn’t expect to be in top form, but the worst effects have nearly gone, as long as I’m a bt careful, and certainlyhy I’m once again smiling and able to enjoy life.
As usual, I used homeopathy, Dr. Schulze’s Superfood Plus and a few herbs and spices, but not in silly capsules – in my food or just eaten plain. I also concentrate on what I can d ofor others, especially for animals and nature (what’s left of nature) rather than brooding over my own misfortunes and state of ill-health.
Life seems very precious now and am grateful to be here instead of just longing for it to be over.
I shan’t be writing here again, or very seldom, but wantd to let you know that one has greater powers f recuperation than one believes.
You couldn’t make it up. 18 months post and I’m taking Ramipril to control the Levaquin induced high blood pressure. Did I tell you about the heart arrythmia as well?? Latest is angioedema of the face and latterly the throat. Thats right, choking. This on top of all the run-of-the-mill symptoms, tendinitis, dry eye, etc etc. Despite this I am still walking around, working, doing my thing. I have to, my family needs feeding. However this drug has left me pretty much in constant fear of death or serious injury in so many ways. Levaquin is the drug. Death. Perhaps the words will show up together in some Google search and make someone else think twice. I was a healthy guy, running and cycling only 2 years ago. Just wondering how much longer till I hit the bottom.
Sorry, but some days I have just had enough….