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Destruida I a listing this for you in mind. I remember you had a bad experience with the soup poisoners.
Well I have a recipe for a soup that I have added to my Floxie Diet. The foundation is off the Terry Wahls diet. But I have been tailoring it to Floxies.
This recipe is for a Soup called Arthritis Soup.
3-4 quarts of water (Fluoride Free)
2 cups of chopped cabbage
1 cup of sliced string beans (1″ pieces)
1 cup of chopped celery
1 cup of stinging nettle leaves
1/2 cup of diced carrots
1/2 cup of chopped asparagus
1/2 cup of dandelion leaves
1/2 cup finely chopped dandelion root
1/4 cup chopped spinach
1/4 cup cubed eggplant
1/4 cup chopped chicory
2 tablespoons minced garlic
2 tablespoons licorice
2 tablespoons evening primrose seeds
ground red pepper
ground black pepper
white mustard
Flaxseed
Sarsaparilla
Fenugreek
Leon Juice
I added 1/2 cup turnips and 2 tablespoons of parsley and 1/4 cup cubed Chayote Squash to make it a floxie recipe.
Place water into large soup pot. Add cabbage, beans, celery, nettles, carrots asparagus, dandelion leaves and root, spinach, eggplant, chicory, garlic, tumeric, licorice, and evening primrose seeds and turnips and parsley and chayote squash.
Season with red pepper, black pepper, mustard, flaxseed, sarsaparilla, fenugreek,and lemon juice. Bring to boil over high heat. Reduce the heat, cover and simmer for 20 to 30 minutes, or until the vegetables are tender.
Try it out, everyone.
Melanie Kemp
9 years ago
The last week ive been in the mind if “bugger it” (brit word)
Im gonna eat some other foods. And I have. Not all the time but sometimes you just need a cookie.Or some cake. Or pumkin pie.
I even had a sip of tequila
Im not dead…the reaction wasnt god aweful terrible and for those few minutes I was enjoying those things it was heaven.
Miriam Brown
9 years ago
Ten years and I am still recovering.
Bless you all! 🙂
I have been diagnosed with viral arthritis by a rheumatologist. Although I have a suspicion that it might be the cipro poisoning. I am currently on prednisone to “get rid of the inflammation that’s causing the pain.” There’s really no way to know for sure which it is. I have heard that prednisone could either benefit those that have cipro poisoning or in most cases hurt them more. Because I have no way of knowing for sure if what I have is viral arthritis or cipro poisoning I have decided to continue to take the prednisone to see. Has anyone been diagnosed with viral arthritis or have taken prednisone?
Jen
9 years ago
Thank you for your response back Lisa. There are no tests for viral arthritis. The rheumotologist is just going by my symptoms I’m guessing. We did all the blood test for all immune disorders and they all came back negative. He just felt around my joints and said they were inflamed and some fluid retention behind one of my knees. But I also have tendonitis symptoms as well. It all started 2 wks after I finished taking cipro for bladder infection. It started with pain on the bottom of my left foot then my right foot followed 5 days later. The plantar fascia arch area. The podiatrist diagnosed me with acquired fallen arches due to posterior tibial tendons. But then a wk later both my hands and arms started with pain in joints and tendons. By the time I was able to get to the rheumatologist 2 months later I was starting to feel improvement. He put me on a 6 day tapered methylprednisone pack. Still slowly improving I didn’t see much change until about 10 days after my last dose. Then things got worse on my hands and arms. The doctor gave me more prednisone to take because I was still having pain…5mg once a day. For the first month I was homebound with minimal mobility due to pain in feet and unable to do much in the kitchen due to pain in my hands. By the second month I was able to do light grocery shopping etc. I have been going to physical therapy for the past 3 1/2 wks and seeing improvement with my walking. I have been on the second round of prednisone for about 9 days now…not much improvement but slight decline. But still so much better than 6 wks ago. I’m so afraid of not making the right decision…every doctor dismisses that it could be caused by cipro. But I happen to come across this website while searching for answers and my symptoms are so similar to a lot on this website. I’m sooo confused. I have a follow up with my rheumatologist in about 10 days. I’m planning on taking the meds till then and see what he says. But I’m so afraid…will I be doing much damage in the meantime? Or will I be able to recover but it will just take longer because of prednisone. Sorry for such a long message.
Jen, did you have any arthritis symptoms at all before cipro? If not, then I would definitely connect joint pain and the arthritis to the cipro. I was perfectly healthy, pain free before I took levaquin last month. Now my symptoms are very similar to yours: increasing leg, foot, and ankle pain that makes standing at my job really, really tough! And I also have hand and arm pain that comes and goes. I’m glad you have seen dome improvement!!! I agree w Lisa, that prednisone can further damage the tendons and ligaments. Whichever route you take, I do hope you make a speedy recovery:). Tricia
Jen
9 years ago
Hi Tricia, I didn’t have any arthritis symptoms prior to cipro…not that I’m aware of. I was a gym rat and very active. Do u get tingling, pins and needle type feeling? I also get pain/heat in my finger tips which I don’t think is anything related to arthritis. And also random quick electric zap like pain in various parts of my body. Very difficult to sleep at night because pain is worse at night in my ankles and feet. Have you seen a doctor for your condition?
Jen
9 years ago
My gut tells me it’s cipro related although my doctors (Primary, ortho, rheumatology) all say no…
Jen
9 years ago
It’s like I’m gambling…taking the prednisone to see if and when my symptoms will worsen…hoping that it’ll drastically get worse so I’d know for sure I have been floxed or hoping the finish out the 3 wks with no worsening of my symptoms which would mean I probably haven’t been floxed. I’m a born caretaker so being taken care of by my husband and children has been extremely difficult emotionally.
Hi Jen…when I was first floxed last month yes, I did have a lot of pins and needle sensations, burning skin, tingling, and involuntary twitching of limbs, hands, and feet. That went away and now I just have muscle weakness and pain in hands, and especially in the feet, ankles and legs . this happened 3 weeks ago but symptoms went away, now my feet, legs really hurt today:( no, I did not go to a Dr. i know they will try to say it’s arthritis or fibromyalga, but come on!! This is a total reaction of FQ toxicity, and sadly, doctors won’t acknowledge this. These symptoms all started almost immediately after just one levaquin. I can only pray now that I will someday recover. I think you will, too.
Oh, I forgot to mention I do have vision issues too. I have dry eyes, floaters, and sometimes things just seem really offset, like my eyes can’t totally focus. It’s gotten somewhat better. Also, when I first got floxed I had a severe psychological reaction to levaquin. I was in extreme panic, couldnt
eat or sleep, kept crying around my 4 yr old because I felt suicidal…..and felt like I was going to go through w it. In all my 34 years of life, I’ve never even been depressed, let alone couldn’t even imagine suicide! And after one pill, I lost all form of rational thinking or feeling. I was in that mindset for 2 weeks, then took some natural brain enhancers to relax and calm CNS….and that really helped!!! I’m happy I’m at least sane again to deal w the physical pains. Honestly, after that experience, I sometimes think the mental part is worse than the physical.
Jen
9 years ago
Thank you all ladies. I know deep inside you are all correct. These things don’t just happen out of nowhere like Melanie said. I felt like my life turned upside down overnight. And you are right Tricia in saying that the doctors will say it’s arthritis or fibromyalgia because the symptoms are so similar. But I guess a part of me wishes it could be something like arthritis…just seems like the lesser evil of the two. I have asked myself if the steroids have helped and I have to say no…I have been supplementing with all kinds of vitamins/minerals and bone soup etc. And wondering if that’s the reason why the prednisone hasn’t hit me like a ton of bricks.
Jen
9 years ago
Tricia, I’m so glad to hear that you have your mental health back. I’m sure your 4 yr old is too. 🙂 Do you take any other supplements? Anything for your physical pains? I think I’ll stop the prednisone as of tomorrow…the zapping pins and needles and achy ankles have been slowly creeping up on me more lately. I hope you recover soon and thank you.
Jen
9 years ago
Melanie, thank you so much for the wealth of information. It disheartens me to hear that you recovered once and now you have relapsed. But if you’ve recovered once before I’m sure you’ll recover once again. Maybe it just takes longer the second time around. Please don’t lose hope…
Hi Jen….yes I take a LOT of supplements. I started taking magnesium right away, vitamin C, I take matrixx (for connective tissue repair) bone health supplement, vitamin D, ppq, a coenzyme Q10 fish oil, thearnine, melatonin…and I’ve also been following the specific carbohydrate diet (although tonight I totally blew it, I ate some of my daughter’s Halloween candy and I cannot believe I let myself do that!!) I just wanted some sort of comfort after a long day….as strange as that may sound. But w the spec carbohydrate diet I do feel healthy and that has really gotten rid of almost all my GI issues from levaquin. And yes, bone broth soup is great for bone health and tendons. I might also try great lakes gelatin. Oh! For pain, the one thing that has really helped is a supplement called willow bark. Its an all natural pain reliever. I’m pretty sure you can get it from a health food store or order it online too. And I k ow what you mean too about wanting this to be something else. When this first happened my family told me this was all in my head….all these strange physical symptoms manifested from anxiety. I wish they were right and wanted to believe them, too. But I knew right away thanks to google, what I was really up against. What we are all up against! How many more the out are you?? I think the sooner you start to focus on healing the faster you will recover 🙂
Has anyone ever recovered, even partly, without using supplements etc? I don’t seem to be able to tolerate anything at all now. Can the body repair without lots of supplements?
Jen, do your feet and ankles still hurt? For the last 48 hours this has really became an issue…it hurts to stand for any real length of time. I pray this does not get any worse!!!
Jen
9 years ago
Tricia, since having physical therapy I can walk normal whereas before I was limping because my left foot on the arch area was painful. They are stiff when I wake in the morning and after about 30mins to 1 hr it feels better but by the afternoon and especially at night it gets worse. I ice my feet/ankles throughout the day and it really helps. Where in your feet do you have pain? Mine used to be everywhere in the beginning…the doctor says I have arthritis in my toes and they thought I may have gout because I had pain in my big toes but the blood test came back negative. Do you think maybe it’s becoming worse because of the weather change?? It almost feels like one step forward two steps back at times, doesn’t it? Oh and I have decided to stop taking prednisone as of today as it doesn’t seem to be improving my symptoms.
Destruida I a listing this for you in mind. I remember you had a bad experience with the soup poisoners.
Well I have a recipe for a soup that I have added to my Floxie Diet. The foundation is off the Terry Wahls diet. But I have been tailoring it to Floxies.
This recipe is for a Soup called Arthritis Soup.
3-4 quarts of water (Fluoride Free)
2 cups of chopped cabbage
1 cup of sliced string beans (1″ pieces)
1 cup of chopped celery
1 cup of stinging nettle leaves
1/2 cup of diced carrots
1/2 cup of chopped asparagus
1/2 cup of dandelion leaves
1/2 cup finely chopped dandelion root
1/4 cup chopped spinach
1/4 cup cubed eggplant
1/4 cup chopped chicory
2 tablespoons minced garlic
2 tablespoons licorice
2 tablespoons evening primrose seeds
ground red pepper
ground black pepper
white mustard
Flaxseed
Sarsaparilla
Fenugreek
Leon Juice
I added 1/2 cup turnips and 2 tablespoons of parsley and 1/4 cup cubed Chayote Squash to make it a floxie recipe.
Place water into large soup pot. Add cabbage, beans, celery, nettles, carrots asparagus, dandelion leaves and root, spinach, eggplant, chicory, garlic, tumeric, licorice, and evening primrose seeds and turnips and parsley and chayote squash.
Season with red pepper, black pepper, mustard, flaxseed, sarsaparilla, fenugreek,and lemon juice. Bring to boil over high heat. Reduce the heat, cover and simmer for 20 to 30 minutes, or until the vegetables are tender.
Try it out, everyone.
The last week ive been in the mind if “bugger it” (brit word)
Im gonna eat some other foods. And I have. Not all the time but sometimes you just need a cookie.Or some cake. Or pumkin pie.
I even had a sip of tequila
Im not dead…the reaction wasnt god aweful terrible and for those few minutes I was enjoying those things it was heaven.
Ten years and I am still recovering.
Bless you all! 🙂
Check this out.
http://naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/harvard-says-fluoridated-water-is-causing-cognitive-disorders/
I have been diagnosed with viral arthritis by a rheumatologist. Although I have a suspicion that it might be the cipro poisoning. I am currently on prednisone to “get rid of the inflammation that’s causing the pain.” There’s really no way to know for sure which it is. I have heard that prednisone could either benefit those that have cipro poisoning or in most cases hurt them more. Because I have no way of knowing for sure if what I have is viral arthritis or cipro poisoning I have decided to continue to take the prednisone to see. Has anyone been diagnosed with viral arthritis or have taken prednisone?
Thank you for your response back Lisa. There are no tests for viral arthritis. The rheumotologist is just going by my symptoms I’m guessing. We did all the blood test for all immune disorders and they all came back negative. He just felt around my joints and said they were inflamed and some fluid retention behind one of my knees. But I also have tendonitis symptoms as well. It all started 2 wks after I finished taking cipro for bladder infection. It started with pain on the bottom of my left foot then my right foot followed 5 days later. The plantar fascia arch area. The podiatrist diagnosed me with acquired fallen arches due to posterior tibial tendons. But then a wk later both my hands and arms started with pain in joints and tendons. By the time I was able to get to the rheumatologist 2 months later I was starting to feel improvement. He put me on a 6 day tapered methylprednisone pack. Still slowly improving I didn’t see much change until about 10 days after my last dose. Then things got worse on my hands and arms. The doctor gave me more prednisone to take because I was still having pain…5mg once a day. For the first month I was homebound with minimal mobility due to pain in feet and unable to do much in the kitchen due to pain in my hands. By the second month I was able to do light grocery shopping etc. I have been going to physical therapy for the past 3 1/2 wks and seeing improvement with my walking. I have been on the second round of prednisone for about 9 days now…not much improvement but slight decline. But still so much better than 6 wks ago. I’m so afraid of not making the right decision…every doctor dismisses that it could be caused by cipro. But I happen to come across this website while searching for answers and my symptoms are so similar to a lot on this website. I’m sooo confused. I have a follow up with my rheumatologist in about 10 days. I’m planning on taking the meds till then and see what he says. But I’m so afraid…will I be doing much damage in the meantime? Or will I be able to recover but it will just take longer because of prednisone. Sorry for such a long message.
Jen, did you have any arthritis symptoms at all before cipro? If not, then I would definitely connect joint pain and the arthritis to the cipro. I was perfectly healthy, pain free before I took levaquin last month. Now my symptoms are very similar to yours: increasing leg, foot, and ankle pain that makes standing at my job really, really tough! And I also have hand and arm pain that comes and goes. I’m glad you have seen dome improvement!!! I agree w Lisa, that prednisone can further damage the tendons and ligaments. Whichever route you take, I do hope you make a speedy recovery:). Tricia
Hi Tricia, I didn’t have any arthritis symptoms prior to cipro…not that I’m aware of. I was a gym rat and very active. Do u get tingling, pins and needle type feeling? I also get pain/heat in my finger tips which I don’t think is anything related to arthritis. And also random quick electric zap like pain in various parts of my body. Very difficult to sleep at night because pain is worse at night in my ankles and feet. Have you seen a doctor for your condition?
My gut tells me it’s cipro related although my doctors (Primary, ortho, rheumatology) all say no…
It’s like I’m gambling…taking the prednisone to see if and when my symptoms will worsen…hoping that it’ll drastically get worse so I’d know for sure I have been floxed or hoping the finish out the 3 wks with no worsening of my symptoms which would mean I probably haven’t been floxed. I’m a born caretaker so being taken care of by my husband and children has been extremely difficult emotionally.
Hi Jen…when I was first floxed last month yes, I did have a lot of pins and needle sensations, burning skin, tingling, and involuntary twitching of limbs, hands, and feet. That went away and now I just have muscle weakness and pain in hands, and especially in the feet, ankles and legs . this happened 3 weeks ago but symptoms went away, now my feet, legs really hurt today:( no, I did not go to a Dr. i know they will try to say it’s arthritis or fibromyalga, but come on!! This is a total reaction of FQ toxicity, and sadly, doctors won’t acknowledge this. These symptoms all started almost immediately after just one levaquin. I can only pray now that I will someday recover. I think you will, too.
Oh, I forgot to mention I do have vision issues too. I have dry eyes, floaters, and sometimes things just seem really offset, like my eyes can’t totally focus. It’s gotten somewhat better. Also, when I first got floxed I had a severe psychological reaction to levaquin. I was in extreme panic, couldnt
eat or sleep, kept crying around my 4 yr old because I felt suicidal…..and felt like I was going to go through w it. In all my 34 years of life, I’ve never even been depressed, let alone couldn’t even imagine suicide! And after one pill, I lost all form of rational thinking or feeling. I was in that mindset for 2 weeks, then took some natural brain enhancers to relax and calm CNS….and that really helped!!! I’m happy I’m at least sane again to deal w the physical pains. Honestly, after that experience, I sometimes think the mental part is worse than the physical.
Thank you all ladies. I know deep inside you are all correct. These things don’t just happen out of nowhere like Melanie said. I felt like my life turned upside down overnight. And you are right Tricia in saying that the doctors will say it’s arthritis or fibromyalgia because the symptoms are so similar. But I guess a part of me wishes it could be something like arthritis…just seems like the lesser evil of the two. I have asked myself if the steroids have helped and I have to say no…I have been supplementing with all kinds of vitamins/minerals and bone soup etc. And wondering if that’s the reason why the prednisone hasn’t hit me like a ton of bricks.
Tricia, I’m so glad to hear that you have your mental health back. I’m sure your 4 yr old is too. 🙂 Do you take any other supplements? Anything for your physical pains? I think I’ll stop the prednisone as of tomorrow…the zapping pins and needles and achy ankles have been slowly creeping up on me more lately. I hope you recover soon and thank you.
Melanie, thank you so much for the wealth of information. It disheartens me to hear that you recovered once and now you have relapsed. But if you’ve recovered once before I’m sure you’ll recover once again. Maybe it just takes longer the second time around. Please don’t lose hope…
Hi Jen….yes I take a LOT of supplements. I started taking magnesium right away, vitamin C, I take matrixx (for connective tissue repair) bone health supplement, vitamin D, ppq, a coenzyme Q10 fish oil, thearnine, melatonin…and I’ve also been following the specific carbohydrate diet (although tonight I totally blew it, I ate some of my daughter’s Halloween candy and I cannot believe I let myself do that!!) I just wanted some sort of comfort after a long day….as strange as that may sound. But w the spec carbohydrate diet I do feel healthy and that has really gotten rid of almost all my GI issues from levaquin. And yes, bone broth soup is great for bone health and tendons. I might also try great lakes gelatin. Oh! For pain, the one thing that has really helped is a supplement called willow bark. Its an all natural pain reliever. I’m pretty sure you can get it from a health food store or order it online too. And I k ow what you mean too about wanting this to be something else. When this first happened my family told me this was all in my head….all these strange physical symptoms manifested from anxiety. I wish they were right and wanted to believe them, too. But I knew right away thanks to google, what I was really up against. What we are all up against! How many more the out are you?? I think the sooner you start to focus on healing the faster you will recover 🙂
Sorry for the type o Jen…I meant to ask how many months out are you?
Has anyone ever recovered, even partly, without using supplements etc? I don’t seem to be able to tolerate anything at all now. Can the body repair without lots of supplements?
Jen, do your feet and ankles still hurt? For the last 48 hours this has really became an issue…it hurts to stand for any real length of time. I pray this does not get any worse!!!
Tricia, since having physical therapy I can walk normal whereas before I was limping because my left foot on the arch area was painful. They are stiff when I wake in the morning and after about 30mins to 1 hr it feels better but by the afternoon and especially at night it gets worse. I ice my feet/ankles throughout the day and it really helps. Where in your feet do you have pain? Mine used to be everywhere in the beginning…the doctor says I have arthritis in my toes and they thought I may have gout because I had pain in my big toes but the blood test came back negative. Do you think maybe it’s becoming worse because of the weather change?? It almost feels like one step forward two steps back at times, doesn’t it? Oh and I have decided to stop taking prednisone as of today as it doesn’t seem to be improving my symptoms.