Fluorine – The Avoided Topic

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I have been avoiding the topic of fluoride because it is such a hot-button issue. For better or for worse, 2016 will be the year for me to explore the topic. I’m guessing that some will cheer when I publish posts about fluorine, and that others will be disappointed and dismiss me. Hopefully discourse will remain civil. I will certainly do my best to be rational and balanced. Please keep in mind, with everything on Floxie Hope, that I am not a scientist or an expert of any kind–I am just a floxie who is trying to figure it all out.

Fellow recovered Floxie Jason Uttley wrote the following insightful piece:

Jason healed through cutting out all sources of fluoride from his life. He drank, and cooked with, distilled water exclusively. He took large doses of antioxidant supplements (vitamin C primarily), and cut out the supplements that may have contained fluoride (I’m not sure how to test for this – sorry). He avoided all pharmaceuticals that contained fluorine.

Avoiding perfluorinated compounds (PFCs)–nonstick and stain resistant products contain them–is probably a good idea too. Here’s an interesting article – Human detoxification of perfluorinated compounds.

Personally, I’m more concerned about the organofluoride metabolites of fluorinated drugs, like fluoroquinolones, than I am about fluoride in water–at least at this point. The prevalence of unbound halogens in our drugs, consumer products, appliances, air pollution, and water, is, almost certainly, cumulative though, and looking at all pieces of the puzzle is necessary.

Personally, I recovered while drinking fluoridated tap water and brushing my teeth with fluoridated toothpaste. I have since made moves to change those habits, but I do want you all to know that recovery is possible while using regular toothpaste, drinking tap water, and even swimming in rec-center pools. Maybe I’m simply lucky, or not hit that hard, or whatever. But I sincerely think that continuing to live your life like a semi-normal person is an important aspect of healing.

Perhaps cutting out fluoride will be your magic bullet though. I certainly hope so.

I also want to note that both Israel and Sweden have determined that the health risks of fluorinating water outweigh the benefits, and neither country currently fluorinates their water. I suspect that it is best to regard those decisions as intelligent.

Jason Uttley’s post is published, in full, in Hacking Fluoroquinolones, the free ebook that you received with a subscription to this email list. You can get Hacking Fluoroquinlones through this link – https://floxiehope.com/hacking-fluoroquinolones-ebook/. The password is Floxie.

I hope that all of you are having a lovely holiday season!

Best regards,


One thought on “Fluorine – The Avoided Topic

  1. Brianna May 14, 2020 at 4:36 pm Reply

    Thank you for posting this. I was about to post a recovery story here last year – after taking only TWO cipro pills several years before – when I got a filling that was impregnated with fluoride. They didn’t ask permission, just told me about it after the fact. But, not knowing the danger, I probably would have okayed it anyway.

    …I regressed. I had been symptom free, but after that filling… It wasn’t anywhere near as excruciatingly painful as it was initially, but I started having a significant amount of tendon pain again. Nothing else changed in my diet or lifestyle, and I wasn’t on any medications. So, that kind of narrowed it down.

    I seriously considered breaking my lease to move to a first floor apartment, because the stairs were suddenly very painful and difficult to navigate (yes, I know I’m lucky to still be able to do stairs at all). After seeing this post, I changed mouthwash, stopped using the fluoride paste they gave me to work with the filling, and did my best to avoid fluoride. I still used nonstick pans, and regular toothpaste. I drink RO water (tap water where I live tastes awful, but I don’t know whether the RO process removes fluoride). It did slowly get better again, over a number of months. Like, 4 or 5.

    How on earth is it even possible to have a relapse into side effects of a medication taken years ago? That doesn’t make sense. But it does seem like that’s what happened… so, thank you!

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