*The following is an individual’s story of surviving fluoroquinolone toxicity. It is not medical advice. Please see the disclaimer at the bottom of the story. Thank you, and please be cautious with all treatments.
Lisa’s Story
In the middle of November, 2011, I took Cipro to treat a urinary tract infection. I took 2 pills (500 mg each, I believe) a day for three days. I didn’t feel like the infection was gone, so I went back to the doctor and requested more antibiotics. He gave me macrobid and the infection subsided within a couple of days. Life went on as normal for the next couple of weeks, until December 2, 2011, at which time I got my period and started taking ibuprofen to help me to deal with the cramps.
Before I continue with my story, I would like to note that I had taken Cipro to treat a urinary tract infection approximately a year earlier. I had no notable side effects at that time. Though, looking back on things, I did develop an eyelid twitch at that time and some strange stomach cramping that came and went started then. I didn’t think anything of the eyelid twitching or the stomach cramps. I certainly didn’t think that they were tied to the Cipro. I took ibuprofen regularly after taking Cipro with no adverse effects.
On December 2, 2011 my legs started to itch. On December 4th I broke out in hives all over my body. I went to the doctor and was told to take Benadryl. I took more Benadryl than the box recommends and my hives got progressively worse. On December 5th my feet and hands swelled to the point that I couldn’t use them anymore. It was painful to walk, or even to just stand. I went back to the doctor and was put on prednisone. The prednisone suppressed the swelling and calmed the hives a bit. On December 7th my left leg went weak. For the next few weeks the following symptoms got worse and worse:
- Weakness in my legs. I could barely walk. The steps that I could take took a tremendous amount of effort and energy. I couldn’t stand for more than a minute. I had to drag a chair into the kitchen in order to cook rice because I couldn’t stand to stir the pot.
- Tightness of the tendons in my legs. I had inflammation, and possibly tears, in most of the tendons in my legs and feet. My hips, knees and ankles, to simplify things, didn’t work right.
- Loss of use of muscles / loss of strength. My muscles, especially the muscles in my legs, wouldn’t move like they used to. All of my movements were slow and deliberate.
- Brain fog. I couldn’t think straight. I felt stupid. I couldn’t concentrate. It was a struggle to do my job.
- Loss of memory. My short-term memory decreased significantly.
- Loss of peripheral vision. Large, black floaters entered my peripheral vision.
- Loss of appetite and weight.
- Loss of flexibility. I went from being able to do yoga several times a week to being unable to sit with my legs curled up under me.
- Loss of balance.
- Severe loss of energy. I felt like the plug had been pulled from my energy source. I wasn’t necessarily sleepy, I was just drained. The feeling was similar to the feeling that I have when I have a cold – weak and like I just want to collapse. Just slight exertion would drain me of my energy. Walking would make me tired for a whole day afterward.
- Dry mouth.
- Anxiety. I had an ongoing anxiety attack for the first couple of months after being floxed.
- Pain in my feet. I felt like I was walking on hot coals with every step I took.
- Loss of reading comprehension. I would read a page and have no idea what I had just read.
- Loss of social skills / connectedness. I felt anxious and scared in social situations. I lost confidence in both my physical and mental abilities. I felt very alone despite having a wonderfully supportive family.
I felt as if I had aged 20 years in just a week or two. I couldn’t move, think or eat. My body and mind were falling apart and I had no idea why. I didn’t think that the sudden decline in my health had anything to do with the Cipro. After all, I had stopped taking it a couple of weeks before my body started to fall apart. I thought that I had an autoimmune disease. My symptoms seemed similar to those of rheumatoid arthritis. I went back to the doctor and they ran every test imaginable on me. I was relieved to find out that I didn’t have an autoimmune disease, but it was somewhat frustrating to hear that all of the tests were showing that I was normal and healthy when, clearly, I was neither normal nor healthy. The doctors did not provide me with a diagnosis or a prognosis. Though I was desperately seeking a diagnosis and prognosis, I am thankful, in retrospect, that they didn’t misdiagnose me. If I had been mistakenly diagnosed as having an autoimmune disease, I may have treated it with pharmaceuticals that could have made me feel even worse.
I was desperate for some treatment, something to stop the downward spiral that my body, mind and spirit were in. The traditional medical doctors I saw provided no relief, treatment or healing. I started seeing an acupuncturist. He was able to stabilize my condition, calm my nerves and keep me from spiraling physically or mentally. After a few weeks feeling stable physically, I started to have days where I felt better than I had the day before. Mentally, I kept going downhill for a while, but, eventually my mental health stabilized and started to improve as well.
Eventually, with the help of my acupuncturist, I connected my symptoms to Cipro. Once the connection was made, I realized that all of my symptoms were consistent with those of others who have been poisoned by Cipro and other fluoroquinolone antibiotics. I entered the scary world of being a floxie.
For about a year, I considered myself to be sick. Though the symptoms listed above were improving, slowly but steadily, I was still sick, and a long ways from the healthy, active, energetic woman that I was before I took Cipro. After a year, I started to put “sick” in the past tense. Though I wasn’t back to the level of health that I was prior to being floxed, I was getting better and, as far as most people could tell, I was well.
Following is a list of things that I did to help me to get well, to heal. I am not a doctor. This is a description of my experience and what helped me. I hope that what helped me helps you. Everyone is different though. What helped me may not help you. One thing that I know helped me and that I know will help you is hope. I hope that the fact that I have largely recovered helps you to have hope. I hope that the other steps that I took to get well also help you to gain hope and healing.
Please feel free to contact me with any questions, comments or concerns, or to share your story.
Lisa’s Healing Tips
One of the many frustrating things about fluoroquinolne toxicity is that everyone’s body is different. Everyone’s symptoms are different and everyone’s body reacts differently to treatments. Following is a list of things that helped me. I hope that what helped me will help you, but it may not. I am including other people’s healing tips as well, in case their tips can help. Of course, please read these tips with the typical disclaimer in mind – I am not a doctor or medical professional of any kind. I am sharing my experience with the hope that others may find it to be useful. Please ask your doctor, or other trusted medical professional, for medical advice, and before taking any of my advice.
In no particular order, here are the things that helped me to heal.
- Time. With time, I have healed. Each day is better than the day before. Time will heal your wounds too. Eventually, you will get better. The poisonous reaction affecting every part of your body will eventually stop and you will begin to recover. I have heard several stories of fellow floxies having a timeline similar to mine – slow, steady recovery for about 2 years. Other people take more, or less, time to recover. Time does help though, and most people do end up getting better as time goes on. Very few people get worse and worse indefinitely. There may be bumps in the road, but time is your friend. Time will help you to return to a state of health.
Try to be patient with yourself. It will take time for your body and mind to heal. I see this whole ordeal of getting sick as a lesson in patience (and compassion, gratitude and health). Pushing yourself too hard too soon can lead to pain, frustration and injury. Try to give yourself the time necessary to heal, and, with time, your body and mind will, indeed, heal.
- Avoid NSAIDs and steroids like the plague. Both NSAIDs and steroids are contraindicated with fluoroquinolone toxicity. They will make your reactions and symptoms worse. There are some published medical articles on PubMed about the contraindication between NSAIDs/steroids and fluoroquinolones. Searching at the library or on Google will give you more detailed information than I can provide. Anecdotally, I know that my reaction was triggered by taking NSAIDs (ibuprofen that I took to help me to deal with menstrual cramps) and it was exacerbated by taking prednisone (a steroid). Please note that I did NOT take NSAIDs or steroids at the same time as Cipro. I took ibuprofen 2 weeks after I finished taking Cipro and it triggered my toxic reaction and I took prednisone 3 weeks after I had finished taking Cipro, after my reaction had started. I will never take another NSAID or steroid again.
Unfortunately, NSAIDs and steroids are the drugs that are the most commonly prescribed drugs used to “treat” fluoroquinolone toxicity. This is because the combination of NSAIDs/steroids and fluoroquinolones does not always cause a toxic reaction, the toxic reaction of combining fluoroquinolones and NSAIDs/steroids can occur even when the drugs are taken weeks or months apart, doctors and other medical professionals don’t acknowledge fluoroquinolone toxicity and so they don’t look for the contraindications and because many of the symptoms of fluoroquinolone toxicity are treated with NSAIDs and steroids. The pain killing qualities of NSAIDs and the swelling reduction qualities of steroids make them the drugs of choice for treating many of the symptoms of fluoroquinolone toxicity. Don’t take them though! In my nonmedical opinion, I suggest taking non-NSAID over-the-counter pain medicine like acetaminophen (Tylenol) for pain (or marijuana – which is probably better for your liver), and antihistamines for the swelling.
Often, fluoroquinolne toxicity is misdiagnosed as an autoimmune disease. In particular, it is often misdiagnosed as rheumatoid arthritis. Many of the drugs that are used to treat rheumatoid arthritis are NSAIDs. Don’t take them.
- Acupuncture. I credit my acupuncturist with saving my life. I can only guess how I would have fared without my acupuncturist, but I imagine that I would have ended up in the emergency room, pumped full of steroids and antidepressants, having a massive anxiety attack and unable to walk. That didn’t happen though and there really isn’t any point in surmising about what could have been. I do know that acupuncture stopped my downward spiral and got me on the road to recovery. Both the acupuncture needles and the herbs that he provided gave me immense relief. I don’t know why or how acupuncture works, but I do know that it worked wonders for me.
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Supplements. I have taken more supplements than I can remember. 90% of them had no noticeable effect on my health. Here is a list of supplements that I think helped me.
Iron. I take a low dose iron supplement – only 5 mg. – daily. The brand of iron supplement that I use is Pur Absorb, but I’m guessing that other low-dose iron supplements will work equally well. Within just a couple days of starting taking the iron supplement, my energy levels increased dramatically. I could walk a mile without being exhausted afterward. In addition to improving my energy level, the iron supplement seems to make my muscles and tendons more supple and malleable. When my tendons are feeling tight, a dose of iron helps to loosen them up – within just a couple hours. Too much iron is really bad for you, so please be careful with supplementing it (ask your doctor, yada yada), but it helps me immensely.
Magnesium. I take 250 mg of chelated magnesium daily. I don’t necessarily notice that it makes me feel better, but I do notice that I feel worse when I don’t take it. My muscles twitch if I don’t take my mag.
Zinc. I take zinc when I get around to it. I remember feeling mildly better when I started taking it. It doesn’t seem to affect my health dramatically though.
Chlorophyll. I take chlorophyll about every other day. It seems to help with my energy level and mental functioning.
I also take fish oils, resveratrol, a probiotic, a joint supplement, CoEnzyme Q10, vitamin B12, chlorella, glucosamine, brewer’s yeast and some other supplements. They may help. I can’t say that I feel a difference using any of them.
- Meditate. Meditating has so many amazing, positive benefits for your brain, your life, your spirit, etc. that I can go on about it ad nauseam. Meditation helped relieve a lot of the mental symptoms of my fluoroquinolone toxicity. My anxiety, inability to concentrate, inability to connect with others, depression, loss of reading comprehension, decreased mental acuity, etc. were greatly reduced (or improved) through meditating. I meditate about 10 minutes each day. I should meditate more like 20-30 minutes a day.
Meditating helped me to gain compassion for myself and my situation. It also helped me to let go of the anger that I felt toward the pharmaceutical companies and the medical culture that allows fluoroquinolones to be on the market. The pharmaceutical companies and the medical culture are both messed up and blame of them is justified, but anger and blame were not serving me mentally, emotionally, spiritually or physically. I needed to let go of my anger and blame in order to move on with my life. Meditating helped with that.
I learned to meditate through taking a class called Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction that was offered by my health insurer. It was an excellent class based on the work of Jon Kabat-Zinn. Many Buddhism centers offer Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction or Meditation 101 classes.
- Get off the internet. Most of the information available on the internet about fluoroquinolone toxicity is horrifying. Fluoroquinolone toxicity is horrifying. It is scary. It is completely unacknowledged by the medical community – the doctors, nurses, etc. who we go to in order to make sense of things when our body goes hay-wire – so we seek answers on the internet. Unfortunately, most internet sites devoted to fluoroquinolone toxicity do not provide a balanced picture. They show the harm and the horror of fluoroquinolone poisoning, but they don’t show the healing and hope that most people eventually experience. I am writing and distributing this in order to provide the perspective of hope and healing. Some people are permanently disabled from fluoroquinolones. My heart goes out to those people and they have every right to scream their story on the internet. However, their story is not your story. My story is not your story either. But if you’re going to look to the internet for a prognosis, it’s better to find a hopeful prognosis than one that is full of doom and gloom.
When I participated in the online forums for Floxies, I noticed that my anxiety levels increased significantly. Even after I was 90% recovered and I thought I could handle it, my anxiety levels would go up simply by reading about people being floxed. Inducing anxiety is one of the worst things that someone suffering from fluoroquinolone toxicity should do. Anxiety makes all symptoms worse. I would slowly relapse and my symptoms would get worse every time I participated in the online forums.
Of course, the people participating in the online forums are seeking to help fellow Floxies, to commiserate and to participate in a support group. It is not their fault that my anxiety levels increased when viewing their sites and/or support groups. After all, most people on those sites are trying to be helpful and supportive. However, the net result of participating in the forums for Floxies is that my anxiety levels increased and my health declined while I was on those sites. I am healthier and happier not participating in the online “support groups” than I was while I did participate in those groups. Of course, this is my experience only. Many people find solace in the Floxie community and if it helps you, great!
The people who have worked hard to create a community of Floxies to support one another should be commended. It is because of their hard work that thousands of people have realized what is going on with their bodies and that they are not alone. The community of Floxies is full of wonderful people. However, you need to do what you need to do to take care of your health and if you find that hearing other people’s stories increases your anxiety levels, get off the internet. For you.
- Diet. I lost 11 pounds in 18 days when I first got floxed. My body was going hay-wire and it seemed like an allergic reaction. I had no idea what I could possibly be allergic to so I stopped eating almost everything. I didn’t eat sugar (including fruit), gluten, dairy, soy, anything non-kosher or anything spicy, or drink any alcohol or caffeine, for a month. I only ate vegetables and organic meat. It’s a highly effective way to lose weight, but I don’t think that restricting my diet severely helped me to heal. Restricting my diet gave me a sense of control, and that’s not a bad thing when your body is self-destructing, but I don’t think that it made me feel any better physically. After a month of only eating veggies and organic meat, I started to add normal foods into my diet. As soon as I started eating an appropriate number of calories, I started to feel better. Not only was I Floxed, I was also wasting away when I wasn’t eating normally. Getting enough food is an important part of healing. Of course, it’s generally good to be on the “don’t eat junk” diet, but I didn’t find that cutting my food intake significantly helped me to feel better.
Many Floxies develop GI problems. I was lucky in that I didn’t have many GI problems. Many people seem to be helped by cutting gluten, sugar and/or junk food out of their diet.
I notice that I feel slightly worse than normal when I consume sugar and/or caffeine. I think that most people do, I am just now accustomed to paying closer attention to my body.
The only food that makes me feel noticeably better is beets. For some reason, beets make me feel great. I just boil them and eat them.
I’ve heard good things about the benefits for Floxies of eating broccoli and other cruciferous vegetables. I love broccoli so I try to eat a lot of it. Unfortunately, I can’t say that I’ve noticed that it makes me feel better.
- Swim. My tendons and muscles feel significantly better when I’m in the water, and for several hours after I finish swimming. Swimming in the ocean feels especially therapeutic. There are so many minerals and trace nutrients in the ocean, I surmise that they’re helpful for healing. Unfortunately, I don’t live near the sea, so I swim in a pool. I feel better when I do so.
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Pilates. I started doing Pilates about 7 months post-floxing. Pilates strengthens the core, something that is generally important, and gently stretches muscles, tendons and ligaments, something that is particularly important for Floxies. I started slowly and gently and didn’t push my tendons, muscles or ligaments too much. I feel that gently stretching helped my tendons, muscles and ligaments to heal and return to (close to) their pre-floxing capacity. Take it easy though.
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Healing arts. I love to dance. I’m not a good dancer, but I love to do it. About 16 months post-floxing I started to dance again. Dance has been healing for me. I feel spiritual, strong and joyful when I dance. I’m not sure if it’s the dancing itself that I find to be healing, of if it’s the joy that I feel when I dance that is healing. Either way, it helps. I surmise that other forms of expression would have similar healing qualities. If you love to sing, sing. If you love to paint, paint. If you love to write, write.
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Attitude tips.
Try not to compare yourself to how you used to be. I used to hike 20 miles in a day. I can’t do that anymore, but I can hike 3 miles today and I couldn’t do that when I first got floxed. Compare yourself to how you were yesterday, not to how you were before you got floxed.
Do something – anything – to work toward healing, every day. Walk a little further than you did yesterday. Meditate. Take an Epsom Salt bath. Get an acupuncture treatment. Do a puzzle. Whatever makes you feel good – do it. Every little step helps.
Don’t kill yourself. Have hope. You will get better.
You’re not crazy. You’re sick. Have hope. You will get better.
You’re not stupid. You’re sick. Have hope. You will get better.
Try not to identify yourself as sick. The mind is a powerful thing so try to stay positive. It’s hard, I know. But try, because it’s worth it.
You will have bad days. They will pass. This all will pass. It is not permanent. You are strong – present tense. You were knocked down, but you weren’t killed. You will get better.
Don’t quit your job. Try to maintain as much normalcy in your life as you can.
It is not your fault. Even if you knew better, even if you demanded the most powerful drug possible from your doctor, even if you self-medicated, even if you coerced your doctor into giving you the fluoroquinolone antibiotic, even if the infection that you were treating was something that you got because of doing something stupid, or from sex, even if you continued to take it after you started to get sick, even if you floxed your child/parent or other loved one – IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT. You are sick. You are poisoned. You are not to blame for your sickness or for the fact that you are poisoned. Who to blame is a discussion that I don’t want to get into because I want this to be positive, but it is not you. You are not to blame. You are a victim. It is not your fault.
Lisa’s Life now
Life is good. I don’t consider myself to be sick any more. I’m not quite up to my pre-floxing capacity in a couple of areas. I don’t have the endurance, energy, strength or flexibility that I used to. However, I’m pretty close to my pre-floxing capacity in those, and other, areas. I’m about 99% better. Not being capable of intense exercise since December, 2011 has left me a bit out of shape, but I’m working toward being able to exercise intensely again and my stamina, strength, energy, etc. are increasing. I can’t hike 15 miles with a backpack on quite yet (something I could do before I was floxed), but I am capable of most physical and mental activities that would put me in the “normal” or “not sick” categories.
I can work full-time. I am grateful for the fact that I have a job that is not too demanding physically or mentally because I was able to hold onto it through my worst times. My boss and coworkers were wonderfully understanding and they claim not to have noticed that I couldn’t think straight for about a year. I even got a promotion about a year post-floxing!
I can do Pilates 4 times a week, swim 2 times a week, dance once a week and walk daily.
When I was unable to walk a block I told myself that I would consider myself to be “better” when I could dance all night in heels (my feet hurt like hell when I was sick), I can do that now. I never liked high heels, but I can wear them now.
My memory isn’t quite what it used to be, but it’s good enough to do well at my job and to maintain my relationships.
In many ways, I’m a different person than I was before I got floxed. This has been perplexing for me and my loved ones, but it’s not an altogether negative thing. I’m a much more spiritual person than I was before I got sick. I was a pretty firm Atheist before I was floxed. Now, through meditation, dancing, believing in alternative therapies that focus on energy, etc., I’m finding some spiritual outlets that I didn’t have, need or want in the past.
I have become a more compassionate and patient person. I now empathize with people who have mystery diseases. I used to have the attitude that I now find so frustrating in medical professionals – that if there isn’t a way to diagnose or treat an ailment, it doesn’t exist. Now I know that people are genuinely suffering and that there is a real cause for their pain – regardless of whether or not it is acknowledged by the medical community. My heart goes out to those in pain.
I had to become more compassionate and patient with myself as well.
I like some things that I didn’t like before I was floxed and I don’t like some things that I used to like a lot. I hated swimming for the first 32 years of my life. Now I love it and consider it to be an important aspect of my healing. I used to like working out in an intense way that got me dripping with sweat. Now I like to do exercises like Pilates that are focused, slow and deliberate. I used to love hiking, camping and backpacking. I miss loving those things so I’m going to try to get back into them, but I’m not sure that they’re my passions any more. Drinking used to be one of my favorite pastimes. My tolerance for alcohol is shot now and I don’t really enjoy it any more. I missed it for a while even though I knew that it was for the best that I wasn’t drinking like a fish. My appetite has changed as well. I used to be able to eat a lot of food and I loved to eat. I still eat, of course, but I don’t eat as much as I used to and I don’t eat with as much gusto. This is probably a good thing seeing as I’m not into exercising intensely any longer.
Even though I would do just about anything to turn back time and not take Cipro, the place that I am in life isn’t bad, and I probably would be someplace different if I hadn’t gotten sick. It sucks that I had to gain empathy for people who suffer from pain, mystery ailments and debilitating fatigue, but it’s probably a good thing that I now have more empathy. I would like to think that I’m a better person from going through this. I’m not a stronger person, but maybe I am a better person.
I hope that my tips and words of advice are welcome and helpful. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions or concerns.
** The story above is truthful, accurate and told to the best of the ability of the writer. It is not intended as medical advice. No person who submits his or her story, nor the people associated with Floxie Hope, diagnoses or treats any illness. The story above should not be substituted for professionally provided medical advice. Please consult your doctor before trying anything that has been mentioned in this story, or in any other story on this site. Please also note that people have varying responses to the treatments mentioned in each story. What helps one person may not help, and may even hurt, another person. It is important that you understand that supplements, IVs, essential oils, and all other treatments, effect people differently depending on the millions of variables that make each of us unique. Please use appropriate caution and prudence, and get professional medical advice.
Hi Lisa … I have just stumbled across your site and reading your story rings so many bells for me – your writing just may be the gift I need – thank you for reaching out …..lee 🙂
I hope women realize that not only has cranberry juice been proven to prevent urinary tract infections, but you can CURE an infection with it as well (per recent studies). I’m a nurse and I’ve done it. You have to go to the organic section and buy REAL cranberry juice. The big names we’ve seen for years in the “regular” aisles are 90% high fructose corn syrup and very little actual cranberry juice. The organic section had a brand that was 1/2 cranberry and 1/2 something else (apple) and that was the best I could find. There were no 100% cranberry juices.
Anyway, the trick is to flood your bladder with the juice. So you have to drink a glass at a time. Just sipping it won’t get enough into your bladder at once to do any good. So I “downed” full glasses every hour until it was gone. Boom. Cured. I only had to endure that horrible “urge” type pain for a few hours….and it was definitely less time than had I taken an antibiotic. I say all this, of course, because you mentioned your problems started when you had a UTI and took Cipro…..
Thank you Lisa, puttin’ my big girl panties on and going to stop “poor me” thoughts. I took Cipro repeatedly for sinisitis around 2003…like so many, thought I overdid it at Curves, ha ha…I am 71 years old, have two adopted grandsons that I am raising, 8 & 9 years old, they do not deserve a grumpy granny…my Achiles tendinitis pain has spread up my legs to my hips…your tips sound sane, going to try them…
Thank you, Lisa. Your words are inspirational, level-headed, and so, so thoughtful.
I’m about 10 days in to being “floxed.” And I know this will heal with time. Again, thanks for your hopeful words and advice.
I love your story, Lisa. You are an inspiration. I have many similar symptoms, but was diagnosed with Adrenal Fatigue. My recovery journey sounds a lot like yours. Keep writing and sharing hope!
You said that “Both the acupuncture needles and the herbs that he provided gave me immense relief”. I’m also making acupuncture and it’s wonderful. I wonder what kind of herbs he prescribed? Maybe I can ask mine acunpucturist here in Brazil about it. Thank you!
I was floxed with Cipro in April, 2013. Went almost overnight from being a happy, wilderness hiker to a bewildered, bedridden depressive.
After being dismissed by the doctor who prescribed the Cipro for a UTI… as having ‘figromyalgia… I found a lovely, female rheumatologist. She said that when she did her residency, all the doctors laughed at the idea of Cipro Syndrome. Now that she sees her own patients, she is convinced that it is very real.
She ran full blood panels and found I was very low on vitamin D. Why? Was this a Cipro effect, or caused by being bedridden indoors and out of the sunshine all summer?
High doses of D are proving to be very therapeutic, improving my mood as well as the flexibility of my once-swollen, rigid and pain-wracked wrists and ankles.
Like you, Lisa, I cannot hike 15 miles, but I’m up to 2 uphill. And bringing the D levels back up has vastly improved my mood. That and the beauty of the great outdoors.
Thanks for posting this, I am in the middle of this. Started Sept 23rd with one IV dose of Levaquain and now I can’t walk. I am doing acupuncture, magnesium, soaking in hot water with Epsom salt and just trying to recover, very few people have treated this and most doctors don’t even believe it. Glad you are doing better.
How wonderful to see your wonderful, uplifing story! I was floxed ten years ago. Although I stopped taking Levaquin after 3 days, almost every major joint in my body became so painful I could hardly walk. Even sleeping was difficult. I felt like I had suddennly aged 30 years. Thinking I must have some autoimmune disease, I googled levaquin and tendon and found a small community talking about floxing. I recognized the symptoms immediately. I have 3 tendons that sustained permanent damage. If I keep them strong, I do pretty well. My bicep tendon may rupture (based on the MRI), but it responds well to work with light (5 pound) weights. I think I suffered some memory issues, but not badly enough to affect work. To this day, I cannot take steriods or NSAIDS, or it is 2003 all over again. I can walk 3 miles a day and do a 45 minute workout with weights, machines, and balance ball. I miss my normal pre-floxing bicep tendon and hip bursae a lot. But I am grateful beyond measure for what I have gotten back.
Hi Lisa!
What did you do to strengthen/recovery the Achilles tendons? They returned to normal with time and Pilates + Swimming + Dance or you did Phisical Therapy?
I’m doing Pilates (light on the ankles, tendinoses on both tendons) and light walking 20-30mins a day and using KTape. I’m 4 month out, i know its a little too soon, but I’m just wondering whether’ll improve only with PT and other therapies or if I’m already in a good way.
My question goes to everyone else recovered or in their recovery path!
Hi Lisa!
What did you do to strengthen/recovery the Achilles tendons? They returned to normal with time and Pilates + Swimming + Dance or you did Phisical Therapy?
I’m doing Pilates (light on the ankles, tendinoses on both tendons) and light walking 20-30mins a day and using KTape. I’m 4 month out, i know its a little too soon, but I’m just wondering whether’ll improve only with PT and other therapies or if I’m already in a good way.
My question goes to everyone else recovered or in their recovery path!
Doesn’t the 2008 FDA black box warning require doctors to give some sort of verbal warnings to the patient when prescribing these meds? And isn’t the pharmacy supposed to have a black box around the warning when they give you that paper showing the hundreds of side effects that can happen to you. My doctor didn’t say anything about side effects or that it worked by messing with my DNA.The pharmacy didn’t give me counsel and the pill bottle only said “keep out of sun light.” Who’s the black box warning for if its only on a piece of paper the original package from Bayer CO that only the Doctor or Pharmacist can see? I may be wrong but I think the Doctor or Pharmacist is required to give some of this Black Box Waring info to the patient?
Lisa,
Thank you for your story. I truly believe I have been floxed and have been suffering from adverse affects for over 9 months now (started over my honeymoon no less…!). I fortunately think I am suffering less severe symptoms but it is still emotionally draining as I was a distance runner, pilates instructor and never faced any injury prior to floxing and now I cannot function the same. I have the tendon pains, dry eye, lack of taste, anxiety, numbness and tingling of muscles, muscle twitching, the list goes on… I knew something was wrong with me and I knew that it had to be the antibiotics but I think I was in deep denial of it and was hoping to find another answer or diagnosis to my problems. I’ve been to several doctors all ignoring my belief of being floxed, many who are now diagnosing me with Sjogren’s syndrome, rheumatoid arthritis, and fibromialgia, even though blood work would come out negative.
With high levels of frustration, pain and taking medication for auto immune diseases that didn’t take any affect at all (some I think actually gave me relapses), I decided recently to stop researching “cures” or “symptoms” or just message forums filled with tragic stories and started searching for ways to cope. This different type of searching as lead me to a much more positive community and group of people that believe that these drugs really do have a long tasting affect on your body but there are ways to find normalcy in their lives. Your site has been very comforting and am happy to have run across it during my research. Thank you for telling your story and letting others tell theirs. It’s so important for people to understand this issue especially since it’s clear that the medical industry is outwardly denying this serious problem.
If you have a moment and if you know, could you tell me of any doctors or groups in the tri-state area that I could reach out to? I see a lot of stories of people affected by this nationally but very few in my area and it’s been difficult trying to find the right help. Would love your help, if you have any info.
Thank you,
Angela
PS. I love your discovery and love of Pilates helping you cope and recover. I’m happy that I can still practice and it is one of the things that has kept me sane through this year. When I recover (or when I’m emotionally able to), I hope to help others going through this hard time through Pilates.
Thank you so much for your lovely note, Angela! I’m so, so sorry that this has happened to you! It’s a difficult thing to face, isn’t it? I remember when I first realized that Cipro was the cause of my body going hay-wire. At first I was relieved, because I mistakenly believed that I would get better as soon as the drug was out of my system. Once I realized that this would be a long haul, well, it was difficult. I did get through it though. (This is my favorite post about getting through it – http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/09/14/a-journey-through-pharmaceutical-induced-illness/) I hope that you do too! Dealing with a disease/syndrome/problem that is largely unacknowledged is difficult, for sure. It would be nice if there were a protocol for “fixing” us. Unfortunately, there isn’t one at this time. So we have to learn from each other, and experiment with ourselves. I hope that the stories on this site of things that have helped others are helpful to you! Everyone has their own path. What works for one person might not be what works for another person. But different things DO work for different people. I think that your focus on being positive will serve you well. Pilates certainly helped me and I hope that it helps you too!
There is a list of doctors who have been helpful to Floxies, but I don’t have it available right now. I will get it to you as soon as I locate it.
Please let me know if there is anything at all that I can do to help you through this!
Best regards,
Lisa
Hi Lisa,
Good day to you! I commented under your “about” thought to add comments here 🙂
Often I read your sharing and stories with tears in my eyes, it’s the tears of hope that my heart said “it’s over, we forgive you, we will work together to overcome this demon together” the fact is we are still alive means there is hope of recovery! this trauma will be over one day, certainly not now or tomorrow but someday. i won’t be brought down by this demon forever.
All i need is perseverance, hope and a spirit to get healed. coupled with the right supplementation and treatment
Lisa, can i ask you a few questions? 😀
you mentioned during the first 9 months, you can barely move around and much less wearing a heel. you wear crocs only. do you find you also lessen your activities to give it time to heal? now it’s festive time and i can’t imagine myself stopping all festive activities but like you said, listen to our body. when it’s in pain, rest rest rest. perhaps it is just so hard to accept the fact.
I read you credit your recovery to a trusted acupuncturist. May i know how many sessions you went in total (or appx) before you begin to feel some positive changes such as tendon loosening up, less inflamed , walking more comfortable with less pain?
right now i am scheduling to go acupuncturist 2 times a week.
Do you think chiropractor help in tendon recovery? I read physical therapy can help strengthen our muscles to restore it’s ability to function properly and improve healing.
lastly, how long does your floater reside before it disappear? my eye are exceptionally dry recently. must be all those sad tears that roll down uncontrollably..
I am glad you don’t have tinnitus! the day my side effect appear, tinnitus is the one who came so loudly and rudely. but it seems to have lessened recently though still there. in fact i have tinnitus 2 years back and subsided totally since then and this stupid antibiotic just have the ability to bring it on! was told by my Chinese acupuncturist tinnitus is a signal of kidney toxic according to TCM. so it’s also an indicator if tinnitus is lower, the toxic is slowly phasing out
Stay strong everyone! this illness is sure no easy fight but what’s done is done. we can cry and sob silent at night but it will not change the fact we are in this predicament.
but we can change the fact we can heal ourselves and on a road of new recovery!
i just love the way you said you found yourself to be even better than before you are floxed because you learn how to cope with being sick and some of those coping skills have made your life better in other areas.
Love and sending festive snow flakes to you,
Jarene
Hi Jarene,
I’m happy to help when/if I can!
Here are my answers:
Activity level – I cut down my activity level significantly – because I just couldn’t move like I used to. My muscles wouldn’t move. My tendons were inflamed. I just couldn’t do what I used to do. I did as much as I could though. Of course, listen to your body. Push yourself gently. Be careful!
My Acupuncturist helped me immensely. I think that I felt some relief right away. The biggest thing that he treated was my anxiety. When the anxiety was under control, everything else was more manageable. I think that the work that he did with my tendons was less pronounced. Time and iron helped my tendons the most.
I didn’t do Chiropractic or PT personally, but I have heard good things about both.
The floaters resolved themselves in the first couple of months (I think that acupuncture helped with them). The dry eyes took longer to resolve. I’m not sure what can help them other than time. Since it’s an autonomic nervous system symptom, maybe it has something to do with low Thiamine levels…. I don’t know. But you can get thiamine from raw, crushed garlic.
I am so sorry for the tinnitus! Please let me know if the herbs and the acupuncture help that symptom!
I love this quote and I want to share it with you –
“And once the storm is over you won’t remember how you made it through, how you managed to survive. You won’t even be sure, in fact, whether the storm is really over. But one thing is certain. When you come out of the storm you won’t be the same person who walked in. That’s what this storm’s all about.” ― Haruki Murakami, Kafka on the Shore
Thank you for your kind words, Jarene! Please let me know if there is anything that I can do for you.
xoxo
Lisa
Dear Lisa
Thanks dearly for coming to my rescue so quickly! ;-D
Yes your sharing is in my mind and will tell myself not to overstretch if my body can’t. a sick body needs time for healing and it’s what we need just that 🙂
yes, you know what! The quote wallpaper is something i got from your facebook and has been my work computer wallpaper since day 1 I found your site…that is just last week, hehe! 🙂 but i know i am not turning to other sites anymore, this place is for healers 🙂
Love
Jarene
Hi Lisa,
I basically got wrecked by 4 cipro pills plus naproxen just this week prescribed for prostatitis. Your story isn’t that far from mine so far, it’s already helped but I’m wondering if you have any advice you can give me.
I took 3 cipro pills + 3 naproxen, started getting neuropathy-like symptoms, went to ER. Doc there said antibiotic doesn’t cause that, said to continue.
I came home and took just one cipro pill more (no naproxen, to test it) and that night I started join and ligament pain. The next day I could barely walk, stopped the cipro myself. I’m a huge walker normally.
I went back to the same ER 1.5 days after and BY SHEER LUCK I got a nurse and doctor who acknowledged (at least) that Cipro causes joint/tendon problem and told me to stop taking them, and he even told me he can’t do anything about the side effects just that they’ll get better over time (but he didn’t say just how long, he was talking very fast, maybe he knew I’m screwed).
I still have bad prostatitis symptoms, so doc prescribed doxycycline (great) and said to continue naproxen (not so great).
I found your story and combined with my own hesitation I decided to not take the naproxen. I think it was hiding the joint pain in the first few days and as a result I probably walked too much during that time.
However I still have bad prostatitis pains so I have to take the doxycycline if there’s any hope for it whatsoever (I do have reason to believe there’s an infection, the problem started just a few weeks ago). This is an impossible situation. I just have to deal with the pain somehow.
Now I know the damage is done and this might only get worse right now because the joint/tendon pain keeps changing every day. The neuropathy isn’t too bad but definitely I can barely walk at all and already got a cane.
I started magnesium/q10 and others, but oh god is there anything I can do at this stage to keep it from getting even worse?
Thanks for your site, I didn’t really take it that seriously to be honest but here I am and my lifestyle is already down the drain.
I’m really sorry for all that you are going through! You are stuck between a rock and a hard place, for sure, and I’m so sorry for the difficulty, the pain, the dilemmas, etc.
Fluoroquinolones and NSAIDs are a nasty combination. Probably because of the formation of poisonous acyl glucuronides within our bodies. Here are a couple of articles that aren’t exactly easy or fun to read, but they are interesting – http://www.chemweb.com/journals/journals?type=issue&jid=13892002&iid=12003 and http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2895369/ Or, it could be because the enzymes required to metabolize NSAIDs have been depleted by the FQ. Anyhow, the short version is – stop taking the naproxen as it is probably making you worse. Don’t take any more Cipro because it is DEFINITELY making you feel worse. Doxycycline is probably fine and it may actually help you. Some Harvard researchers recently said that tetracyclines (like Doxy) may help when you are having an adverse reaction to a FQ – http://wyss.harvard.edu/viewpressrelease/117/ Hopefully the doxy will get rid of the prostatitis! As for pain, I have heard good things about tumeric as a natural painkiller. I tolerate Tylenol alright too.
As for what you can do to keep the floxing reaction from getting worse, everyone is different so I can’t tell you for sure. I would supplement magnesium in multiple forms (oral supplementation, epsom salt baths, mag oil, etc.), eat brewer’s yeast, try to increase antioxidant levels through various supplements and look through the stories on this site to see what other people have done.
Please note that I am not a doctor, nor do I have any sort of medical training at all. You should know that and really think about it before you take any advice from me. Independent research, and the opinions of trusted medical professionals, are worth a lot. Please listen to your body. Please try to be patient too. It’s tempting to try everything possible, but I’m not sure that scrambling is helpful. It will likely pass with time. Most people do recover with time. I hope that you do too! Please let me know if you need anything.
hi, i had a bad episode with cipro two weeks after taking in back in feb this year.(2013). luckily only took 3 days worth before ending up in the ER with a suspected heart attack and multiple other symptoms. After the docs found nothing they asked if I was taking anythign and suggested that i might be having an “alergic” reaction. yeah,right! …
I googled cipro and stopped taking the posionous little pills. It took six weeks to be able to work and feel straight again .I had panic attacks(never had those in my life,im 40),tight tendons,muscle aches,depression,foggyness and felt as you described that I had aged overnight.
After the first six weeks i felt fine until last month when all the symptons returned but only about 20% of the intensity. This is now getting better(dec). It seems once posioned you go through cycles of illness/recovery.
thanks for your efforts with the site. After reading this and others I am now warned about the NSAID’s that can cause relapses . I take magnesium every day and as much anti-oxidant food/supplements as possible.
I think the best advice to anyone who experiences this is to behave as though you have been poisioned …because you have! …get it out of your system ASAP and work on your immune system long after the side effects stop to limit/prevent future problems.
I am in england and there is no official public /gov info on this problem. I took cipro for a very minor UTI that Know now can be sorted with cranberry juice/uva ursi and other “alternative medicines”.
..like you my perspective has changed .I value my health and gaurd it like a demon. I don’t trust doctors and wont take anything until i have done research myself on it. I use old school remedies from herbalists for minor problems which often seem more effective than the antibiotics i used to take.
I hope you are well and happy new year!
Neil