*The following is an individual’s story of surviving fluoroquinolone toxicity. It is not medical advice. Please see the disclaimer at the bottom of the story. Thank you, and please be cautious with all treatments.
Lisa’s Story
In the middle of November, 2011, I took Cipro to treat a urinary tract infection. I took 2 pills (500 mg each, I believe) a day for three days. I didn’t feel like the infection was gone, so I went back to the doctor and requested more antibiotics. He gave me macrobid and the infection subsided within a couple of days. Life went on as normal for the next couple of weeks, until December 2, 2011, at which time I got my period and started taking ibuprofen to help me to deal with the cramps.
Before I continue with my story, I would like to note that I had taken Cipro to treat a urinary tract infection approximately a year earlier. I had no notable side effects at that time. Though, looking back on things, I did develop an eyelid twitch at that time and some strange stomach cramping that came and went started then. I didn’t think anything of the eyelid twitching or the stomach cramps. I certainly didn’t think that they were tied to the Cipro. I took ibuprofen regularly after taking Cipro with no adverse effects.
On December 2, 2011 my legs started to itch. On December 4th I broke out in hives all over my body. I went to the doctor and was told to take Benadryl. I took more Benadryl than the box recommends and my hives got progressively worse. On December 5th my feet and hands swelled to the point that I couldn’t use them anymore. It was painful to walk, or even to just stand. I went back to the doctor and was put on prednisone. The prednisone suppressed the swelling and calmed the hives a bit. On December 7th my left leg went weak. For the next few weeks the following symptoms got worse and worse:
- Weakness in my legs. I could barely walk. The steps that I could take took a tremendous amount of effort and energy. I couldn’t stand for more than a minute. I had to drag a chair into the kitchen in order to cook rice because I couldn’t stand to stir the pot.
- Tightness of the tendons in my legs. I had inflammation, and possibly tears, in most of the tendons in my legs and feet. My hips, knees and ankles, to simplify things, didn’t work right.
- Loss of use of muscles / loss of strength. My muscles, especially the muscles in my legs, wouldn’t move like they used to. All of my movements were slow and deliberate.
- Brain fog. I couldn’t think straight. I felt stupid. I couldn’t concentrate. It was a struggle to do my job.
- Loss of memory. My short-term memory decreased significantly.
- Loss of peripheral vision. Large, black floaters entered my peripheral vision.
- Loss of appetite and weight.
- Loss of flexibility. I went from being able to do yoga several times a week to being unable to sit with my legs curled up under me.
- Loss of balance.
- Severe loss of energy. I felt like the plug had been pulled from my energy source. I wasn’t necessarily sleepy, I was just drained. The feeling was similar to the feeling that I have when I have a cold – weak and like I just want to collapse. Just slight exertion would drain me of my energy. Walking would make me tired for a whole day afterward.
- Dry mouth.
- Anxiety. I had an ongoing anxiety attack for the first couple of months after being floxed.
- Pain in my feet. I felt like I was walking on hot coals with every step I took.
- Loss of reading comprehension. I would read a page and have no idea what I had just read.
- Loss of social skills / connectedness. I felt anxious and scared in social situations. I lost confidence in both my physical and mental abilities. I felt very alone despite having a wonderfully supportive family.
I felt as if I had aged 20 years in just a week or two. I couldn’t move, think or eat. My body and mind were falling apart and I had no idea why. I didn’t think that the sudden decline in my health had anything to do with the Cipro. After all, I had stopped taking it a couple of weeks before my body started to fall apart. I thought that I had an autoimmune disease. My symptoms seemed similar to those of rheumatoid arthritis. I went back to the doctor and they ran every test imaginable on me. I was relieved to find out that I didn’t have an autoimmune disease, but it was somewhat frustrating to hear that all of the tests were showing that I was normal and healthy when, clearly, I was neither normal nor healthy. The doctors did not provide me with a diagnosis or a prognosis. Though I was desperately seeking a diagnosis and prognosis, I am thankful, in retrospect, that they didn’t misdiagnose me. If I had been mistakenly diagnosed as having an autoimmune disease, I may have treated it with pharmaceuticals that could have made me feel even worse.
I was desperate for some treatment, something to stop the downward spiral that my body, mind and spirit were in. The traditional medical doctors I saw provided no relief, treatment or healing. I started seeing an acupuncturist. He was able to stabilize my condition, calm my nerves and keep me from spiraling physically or mentally. After a few weeks feeling stable physically, I started to have days where I felt better than I had the day before. Mentally, I kept going downhill for a while, but, eventually my mental health stabilized and started to improve as well.
Eventually, with the help of my acupuncturist, I connected my symptoms to Cipro. Once the connection was made, I realized that all of my symptoms were consistent with those of others who have been poisoned by Cipro and other fluoroquinolone antibiotics. I entered the scary world of being a floxie.
For about a year, I considered myself to be sick. Though the symptoms listed above were improving, slowly but steadily, I was still sick, and a long ways from the healthy, active, energetic woman that I was before I took Cipro. After a year, I started to put “sick” in the past tense. Though I wasn’t back to the level of health that I was prior to being floxed, I was getting better and, as far as most people could tell, I was well.
Following is a list of things that I did to help me to get well, to heal. I am not a doctor. This is a description of my experience and what helped me. I hope that what helped me helps you. Everyone is different though. What helped me may not help you. One thing that I know helped me and that I know will help you is hope. I hope that the fact that I have largely recovered helps you to have hope. I hope that the other steps that I took to get well also help you to gain hope and healing.
Please feel free to contact me with any questions, comments or concerns, or to share your story.
Lisa’s Healing Tips
One of the many frustrating things about fluoroquinolne toxicity is that everyone’s body is different. Everyone’s symptoms are different and everyone’s body reacts differently to treatments. Following is a list of things that helped me. I hope that what helped me will help you, but it may not. I am including other people’s healing tips as well, in case their tips can help. Of course, please read these tips with the typical disclaimer in mind – I am not a doctor or medical professional of any kind. I am sharing my experience with the hope that others may find it to be useful. Please ask your doctor, or other trusted medical professional, for medical advice, and before taking any of my advice.
In no particular order, here are the things that helped me to heal.
- Time. With time, I have healed. Each day is better than the day before. Time will heal your wounds too. Eventually, you will get better. The poisonous reaction affecting every part of your body will eventually stop and you will begin to recover. I have heard several stories of fellow floxies having a timeline similar to mine – slow, steady recovery for about 2 years. Other people take more, or less, time to recover. Time does help though, and most people do end up getting better as time goes on. Very few people get worse and worse indefinitely. There may be bumps in the road, but time is your friend. Time will help you to return to a state of health.
Try to be patient with yourself. It will take time for your body and mind to heal. I see this whole ordeal of getting sick as a lesson in patience (and compassion, gratitude and health). Pushing yourself too hard too soon can lead to pain, frustration and injury. Try to give yourself the time necessary to heal, and, with time, your body and mind will, indeed, heal.
- Avoid NSAIDs and steroids like the plague. Both NSAIDs and steroids are contraindicated with fluoroquinolone toxicity. They will make your reactions and symptoms worse. There are some published medical articles on PubMed about the contraindication between NSAIDs/steroids and fluoroquinolones. Searching at the library or on Google will give you more detailed information than I can provide. Anecdotally, I know that my reaction was triggered by taking NSAIDs (ibuprofen that I took to help me to deal with menstrual cramps) and it was exacerbated by taking prednisone (a steroid). Please note that I did NOT take NSAIDs or steroids at the same time as Cipro. I took ibuprofen 2 weeks after I finished taking Cipro and it triggered my toxic reaction and I took prednisone 3 weeks after I had finished taking Cipro, after my reaction had started. I will never take another NSAID or steroid again.
Unfortunately, NSAIDs and steroids are the drugs that are the most commonly prescribed drugs used to “treat” fluoroquinolone toxicity. This is because the combination of NSAIDs/steroids and fluoroquinolones does not always cause a toxic reaction, the toxic reaction of combining fluoroquinolones and NSAIDs/steroids can occur even when the drugs are taken weeks or months apart, doctors and other medical professionals don’t acknowledge fluoroquinolone toxicity and so they don’t look for the contraindications and because many of the symptoms of fluoroquinolone toxicity are treated with NSAIDs and steroids. The pain killing qualities of NSAIDs and the swelling reduction qualities of steroids make them the drugs of choice for treating many of the symptoms of fluoroquinolone toxicity. Don’t take them though! In my nonmedical opinion, I suggest taking non-NSAID over-the-counter pain medicine like acetaminophen (Tylenol) for pain (or marijuana – which is probably better for your liver), and antihistamines for the swelling.
Often, fluoroquinolne toxicity is misdiagnosed as an autoimmune disease. In particular, it is often misdiagnosed as rheumatoid arthritis. Many of the drugs that are used to treat rheumatoid arthritis are NSAIDs. Don’t take them.
- Acupuncture. I credit my acupuncturist with saving my life. I can only guess how I would have fared without my acupuncturist, but I imagine that I would have ended up in the emergency room, pumped full of steroids and antidepressants, having a massive anxiety attack and unable to walk. That didn’t happen though and there really isn’t any point in surmising about what could have been. I do know that acupuncture stopped my downward spiral and got me on the road to recovery. Both the acupuncture needles and the herbs that he provided gave me immense relief. I don’t know why or how acupuncture works, but I do know that it worked wonders for me.
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Supplements. I have taken more supplements than I can remember. 90% of them had no noticeable effect on my health. Here is a list of supplements that I think helped me.
Iron. I take a low dose iron supplement – only 5 mg. – daily. The brand of iron supplement that I use is Pur Absorb, but I’m guessing that other low-dose iron supplements will work equally well. Within just a couple days of starting taking the iron supplement, my energy levels increased dramatically. I could walk a mile without being exhausted afterward. In addition to improving my energy level, the iron supplement seems to make my muscles and tendons more supple and malleable. When my tendons are feeling tight, a dose of iron helps to loosen them up – within just a couple hours. Too much iron is really bad for you, so please be careful with supplementing it (ask your doctor, yada yada), but it helps me immensely.
Magnesium. I take 250 mg of chelated magnesium daily. I don’t necessarily notice that it makes me feel better, but I do notice that I feel worse when I don’t take it. My muscles twitch if I don’t take my mag.
Zinc. I take zinc when I get around to it. I remember feeling mildly better when I started taking it. It doesn’t seem to affect my health dramatically though.
Chlorophyll. I take chlorophyll about every other day. It seems to help with my energy level and mental functioning.
I also take fish oils, resveratrol, a probiotic, a joint supplement, CoEnzyme Q10, vitamin B12, chlorella, glucosamine, brewer’s yeast and some other supplements. They may help. I can’t say that I feel a difference using any of them.
- Meditate. Meditating has so many amazing, positive benefits for your brain, your life, your spirit, etc. that I can go on about it ad nauseam. Meditation helped relieve a lot of the mental symptoms of my fluoroquinolone toxicity. My anxiety, inability to concentrate, inability to connect with others, depression, loss of reading comprehension, decreased mental acuity, etc. were greatly reduced (or improved) through meditating. I meditate about 10 minutes each day. I should meditate more like 20-30 minutes a day.
Meditating helped me to gain compassion for myself and my situation. It also helped me to let go of the anger that I felt toward the pharmaceutical companies and the medical culture that allows fluoroquinolones to be on the market. The pharmaceutical companies and the medical culture are both messed up and blame of them is justified, but anger and blame were not serving me mentally, emotionally, spiritually or physically. I needed to let go of my anger and blame in order to move on with my life. Meditating helped with that.
I learned to meditate through taking a class called Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction that was offered by my health insurer. It was an excellent class based on the work of Jon Kabat-Zinn. Many Buddhism centers offer Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction or Meditation 101 classes.
- Get off the internet. Most of the information available on the internet about fluoroquinolone toxicity is horrifying. Fluoroquinolone toxicity is horrifying. It is scary. It is completely unacknowledged by the medical community – the doctors, nurses, etc. who we go to in order to make sense of things when our body goes hay-wire – so we seek answers on the internet. Unfortunately, most internet sites devoted to fluoroquinolone toxicity do not provide a balanced picture. They show the harm and the horror of fluoroquinolone poisoning, but they don’t show the healing and hope that most people eventually experience. I am writing and distributing this in order to provide the perspective of hope and healing. Some people are permanently disabled from fluoroquinolones. My heart goes out to those people and they have every right to scream their story on the internet. However, their story is not your story. My story is not your story either. But if you’re going to look to the internet for a prognosis, it’s better to find a hopeful prognosis than one that is full of doom and gloom.
When I participated in the online forums for Floxies, I noticed that my anxiety levels increased significantly. Even after I was 90% recovered and I thought I could handle it, my anxiety levels would go up simply by reading about people being floxed. Inducing anxiety is one of the worst things that someone suffering from fluoroquinolone toxicity should do. Anxiety makes all symptoms worse. I would slowly relapse and my symptoms would get worse every time I participated in the online forums.
Of course, the people participating in the online forums are seeking to help fellow Floxies, to commiserate and to participate in a support group. It is not their fault that my anxiety levels increased when viewing their sites and/or support groups. After all, most people on those sites are trying to be helpful and supportive. However, the net result of participating in the forums for Floxies is that my anxiety levels increased and my health declined while I was on those sites. I am healthier and happier not participating in the online “support groups” than I was while I did participate in those groups. Of course, this is my experience only. Many people find solace in the Floxie community and if it helps you, great!
The people who have worked hard to create a community of Floxies to support one another should be commended. It is because of their hard work that thousands of people have realized what is going on with their bodies and that they are not alone. The community of Floxies is full of wonderful people. However, you need to do what you need to do to take care of your health and if you find that hearing other people’s stories increases your anxiety levels, get off the internet. For you.
- Diet. I lost 11 pounds in 18 days when I first got floxed. My body was going hay-wire and it seemed like an allergic reaction. I had no idea what I could possibly be allergic to so I stopped eating almost everything. I didn’t eat sugar (including fruit), gluten, dairy, soy, anything non-kosher or anything spicy, or drink any alcohol or caffeine, for a month. I only ate vegetables and organic meat. It’s a highly effective way to lose weight, but I don’t think that restricting my diet severely helped me to heal. Restricting my diet gave me a sense of control, and that’s not a bad thing when your body is self-destructing, but I don’t think that it made me feel any better physically. After a month of only eating veggies and organic meat, I started to add normal foods into my diet. As soon as I started eating an appropriate number of calories, I started to feel better. Not only was I Floxed, I was also wasting away when I wasn’t eating normally. Getting enough food is an important part of healing. Of course, it’s generally good to be on the “don’t eat junk” diet, but I didn’t find that cutting my food intake significantly helped me to feel better.
Many Floxies develop GI problems. I was lucky in that I didn’t have many GI problems. Many people seem to be helped by cutting gluten, sugar and/or junk food out of their diet.
I notice that I feel slightly worse than normal when I consume sugar and/or caffeine. I think that most people do, I am just now accustomed to paying closer attention to my body.
The only food that makes me feel noticeably better is beets. For some reason, beets make me feel great. I just boil them and eat them.
I’ve heard good things about the benefits for Floxies of eating broccoli and other cruciferous vegetables. I love broccoli so I try to eat a lot of it. Unfortunately, I can’t say that I’ve noticed that it makes me feel better.
- Swim. My tendons and muscles feel significantly better when I’m in the water, and for several hours after I finish swimming. Swimming in the ocean feels especially therapeutic. There are so many minerals and trace nutrients in the ocean, I surmise that they’re helpful for healing. Unfortunately, I don’t live near the sea, so I swim in a pool. I feel better when I do so.
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Pilates. I started doing Pilates about 7 months post-floxing. Pilates strengthens the core, something that is generally important, and gently stretches muscles, tendons and ligaments, something that is particularly important for Floxies. I started slowly and gently and didn’t push my tendons, muscles or ligaments too much. I feel that gently stretching helped my tendons, muscles and ligaments to heal and return to (close to) their pre-floxing capacity. Take it easy though.
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Healing arts. I love to dance. I’m not a good dancer, but I love to do it. About 16 months post-floxing I started to dance again. Dance has been healing for me. I feel spiritual, strong and joyful when I dance. I’m not sure if it’s the dancing itself that I find to be healing, of if it’s the joy that I feel when I dance that is healing. Either way, it helps. I surmise that other forms of expression would have similar healing qualities. If you love to sing, sing. If you love to paint, paint. If you love to write, write.
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Attitude tips.
Try not to compare yourself to how you used to be. I used to hike 20 miles in a day. I can’t do that anymore, but I can hike 3 miles today and I couldn’t do that when I first got floxed. Compare yourself to how you were yesterday, not to how you were before you got floxed.
Do something – anything – to work toward healing, every day. Walk a little further than you did yesterday. Meditate. Take an Epsom Salt bath. Get an acupuncture treatment. Do a puzzle. Whatever makes you feel good – do it. Every little step helps.
Don’t kill yourself. Have hope. You will get better.
You’re not crazy. You’re sick. Have hope. You will get better.
You’re not stupid. You’re sick. Have hope. You will get better.
Try not to identify yourself as sick. The mind is a powerful thing so try to stay positive. It’s hard, I know. But try, because it’s worth it.
You will have bad days. They will pass. This all will pass. It is not permanent. You are strong – present tense. You were knocked down, but you weren’t killed. You will get better.
Don’t quit your job. Try to maintain as much normalcy in your life as you can.
It is not your fault. Even if you knew better, even if you demanded the most powerful drug possible from your doctor, even if you self-medicated, even if you coerced your doctor into giving you the fluoroquinolone antibiotic, even if the infection that you were treating was something that you got because of doing something stupid, or from sex, even if you continued to take it after you started to get sick, even if you floxed your child/parent or other loved one – IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT. You are sick. You are poisoned. You are not to blame for your sickness or for the fact that you are poisoned. Who to blame is a discussion that I don’t want to get into because I want this to be positive, but it is not you. You are not to blame. You are a victim. It is not your fault.
Lisa’s Life now
Life is good. I don’t consider myself to be sick any more. I’m not quite up to my pre-floxing capacity in a couple of areas. I don’t have the endurance, energy, strength or flexibility that I used to. However, I’m pretty close to my pre-floxing capacity in those, and other, areas. I’m about 99% better. Not being capable of intense exercise since December, 2011 has left me a bit out of shape, but I’m working toward being able to exercise intensely again and my stamina, strength, energy, etc. are increasing. I can’t hike 15 miles with a backpack on quite yet (something I could do before I was floxed), but I am capable of most physical and mental activities that would put me in the “normal” or “not sick” categories.
I can work full-time. I am grateful for the fact that I have a job that is not too demanding physically or mentally because I was able to hold onto it through my worst times. My boss and coworkers were wonderfully understanding and they claim not to have noticed that I couldn’t think straight for about a year. I even got a promotion about a year post-floxing!
I can do Pilates 4 times a week, swim 2 times a week, dance once a week and walk daily.
When I was unable to walk a block I told myself that I would consider myself to be “better” when I could dance all night in heels (my feet hurt like hell when I was sick), I can do that now. I never liked high heels, but I can wear them now.
My memory isn’t quite what it used to be, but it’s good enough to do well at my job and to maintain my relationships.
In many ways, I’m a different person than I was before I got floxed. This has been perplexing for me and my loved ones, but it’s not an altogether negative thing. I’m a much more spiritual person than I was before I got sick. I was a pretty firm Atheist before I was floxed. Now, through meditation, dancing, believing in alternative therapies that focus on energy, etc., I’m finding some spiritual outlets that I didn’t have, need or want in the past.
I have become a more compassionate and patient person. I now empathize with people who have mystery diseases. I used to have the attitude that I now find so frustrating in medical professionals – that if there isn’t a way to diagnose or treat an ailment, it doesn’t exist. Now I know that people are genuinely suffering and that there is a real cause for their pain – regardless of whether or not it is acknowledged by the medical community. My heart goes out to those in pain.
I had to become more compassionate and patient with myself as well.
I like some things that I didn’t like before I was floxed and I don’t like some things that I used to like a lot. I hated swimming for the first 32 years of my life. Now I love it and consider it to be an important aspect of my healing. I used to like working out in an intense way that got me dripping with sweat. Now I like to do exercises like Pilates that are focused, slow and deliberate. I used to love hiking, camping and backpacking. I miss loving those things so I’m going to try to get back into them, but I’m not sure that they’re my passions any more. Drinking used to be one of my favorite pastimes. My tolerance for alcohol is shot now and I don’t really enjoy it any more. I missed it for a while even though I knew that it was for the best that I wasn’t drinking like a fish. My appetite has changed as well. I used to be able to eat a lot of food and I loved to eat. I still eat, of course, but I don’t eat as much as I used to and I don’t eat with as much gusto. This is probably a good thing seeing as I’m not into exercising intensely any longer.
Even though I would do just about anything to turn back time and not take Cipro, the place that I am in life isn’t bad, and I probably would be someplace different if I hadn’t gotten sick. It sucks that I had to gain empathy for people who suffer from pain, mystery ailments and debilitating fatigue, but it’s probably a good thing that I now have more empathy. I would like to think that I’m a better person from going through this. I’m not a stronger person, but maybe I am a better person.
I hope that my tips and words of advice are welcome and helpful. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions or concerns.
** The story above is truthful, accurate and told to the best of the ability of the writer. It is not intended as medical advice. No person who submits his or her story, nor the people associated with Floxie Hope, diagnoses or treats any illness. The story above should not be substituted for professionally provided medical advice. Please consult your doctor before trying anything that has been mentioned in this story, or in any other story on this site. Please also note that people have varying responses to the treatments mentioned in each story. What helps one person may not help, and may even hurt, another person. It is important that you understand that supplements, IVs, essential oils, and all other treatments, effect people differently depending on the millions of variables that make each of us unique. Please use appropriate caution and prudence, and get professional medical advice.
Sorry – misspelling – company is “Life-flo” for the spray. Check with your doctor first.
John,
How are you doing in your recovery?
Dee,
As regards sleep,issues:
Have you looked into Vitamin D. It improves sleep,quality when it,is above 30. If you don’t know what your level is, ask your doctor to test it. If you know,it is low and are taking a supplement long term and going nowhere, you need to add Vitamin K2.
Hi John – Please let me know how it goes with your lawsuit. Perhaps a class action would work. I suspect their defense will be the literature that accompanies the drug.
To Deb – if you use olive oil, my understanding is it has to be pure virgin cold pressed, and organic – and not a mixture, which most olive oils are, even if they say organic virgin first cold pressed. Need to research the provider.
I am encouraged by John’s posts, very thankful for Lisa’s posts, and for Kerri’s regime, which I am following best I can. To address someone else’s concern above, I also get tinnitus, and it may be coincidental, but it seems to lessen when I put magnesium gel around the jaw and on the bone surrounding the back of the ear (not the ear itself). Tinnitus is usually caused by TMJ (a jaw joint disorder), or a very fragile bone in the ear pushing against a nerve, or from arthritic formations doing the same. I suspect that the Cipro inflames that area due to leeching magnesium and mis-transfering calcium to that area. Just a guess.
Acupuncture is huge. Always feel much less pain and more relaxed afterwards. My acupuncturist is treating two other floxed people (by coincidence), one whose Achilles tendon ruptured, and all his joints are aching. My main symptoms so far are loose joints and pain in the shoulders and hands, and popping in the other joints. – After one dose, and I had symptoms immediately following. The acupuncturist, who is Chinese and learned from his grandfather, also uses Chinese herbs. The Chinese term is getting the “blood up”, which means getting oxygenated blood to all the tissues that are starved by the poison reaction, and overcoming the cells damaged by damaged DNA and mitachondria, etc.
That also means that the blood needs to be properly nourished for it to be really effective,
so I am using all the basic supplements and foods Kerri suggests, plus a few of the “super” supplements. He also stresses the importance of magnesium, and says calcium supplements should be avoided, and to get calcium from your food. I mentioned the other
supplements, which he said were fine.
Another acupuncturist I spoke to supports EFT (emotional frequency training), which is a method of using accupressure “tapping” along with affirmations, toward a specific ailment or emotional
issue. VERY POWERFUL. I have been doing it for years. It can be found online.
There are videos teaching how to do it. It has also helped with the floxing. After one
treatment I felt no pain for hours, though I still had to be careful not to get too excited and aggravate the already affected joints, which are still weak. If people are not into accupuncture at first,
this is an excellent precursor and aid.
Epsom salt baths or foot soaks are really great – seem to help alot. Also a good alternative for the Magnesium gel, which burns a bit due to the salt content, and dries the skin. I
applied it for hours on the shoulders and got a slight rash, which is diminishing quickly.
I won’t keep it on the skin so long when I continue. I have noticed that the gel will ease
the pain immediately at certain times, so it is very effective.
I know my body was deficient before taking Cipro, which likely allowed the reaction to take hold. I had stiff back and shoulders before, not realizing I was not feeding the body enough nutrients, especially magnesium. I know this could be an extended fight, so my intention is to improve overall health while fighting this aberrant
immune system behavior. I am also taking more protein (organic whey protein), along with bone broth – every medical practitioner I talk to recommends organic bone broth strongly, for collagen and protein and other minerals. .
My gut feeling is that the healthier one proceeds, with proper diet, supplements and
activity, the faster the body will reverse its “sick” state, and the immune system will override
the poisoning or toxic reaction.
On another site, one person who said he is mostly recovered said he did a lot of positive
affirmations. This is good along with the EFT tapping mentioned above.
The one I use is:
“There is one God, one Truth and one Spirit, and that Spirit is one with God and Truth, and that Spirit is the Spirit of pure and perfect health, and I know that spirit is within me now,
completely curing me of Cipro poisoning and healing all the damage done from it, and I know
that the spirit is protecting my body from any other harm, and is powerfully healing every joint, connective tissue, brain and eye tissue, blood, organs and every part of my body all the way to my DNA, to bring me into a state of pure and shining health. I know this to be true, I accept it, and release it into the Law, and so be it.”
Each person can word it however they want. The point is to acknowledge and empower the healing force within your own body to do its utmost to heal you. The last sentence of acceptance, release and stating it to be is important. When I have done it right, it is powerful, and there are goosebumps, and endorphins going wherever needed to heal and cure whatever ailment needs to be addressed. Can’t hurt.
It remains to be seen how the liver and kidneys will fare through the poisoning and supplements, but I think attitude and balanced approach along with common sense, and trusting yourself is the main thing, so you don’t over do it. I’m not a doctor, but have
been through a lot of medical stuff, and have found that you have to be your own best advocate, have courage, be your own best supporter, and remain focused and visualize
great health, and be patient.
I haven’t found a western medical practitioner who knows what they are doing with regards to floxing. They all want to prescribe prednisone or something else that will just make it worse. If anyone finds anyone good, please advise. Bayer and the other manufacturers would do well to come up with a anti – product or antidote to their poison. They owe it to the public.
hello
any suggestions on peripheral neuropathy?
and wondering what cold meds are allowed?
Lisa, I am 5 months into recovery and my physical body has improved quite a bit. I am still battling with brain fog, insomnia, anxiety and tinnutus so basically CNS issues. I read your blog on brain fog and was curious how long it took you to get your brain fog cleared in your head?? Did you have the anxiety to go along with it?? I feel hopeful that my body has improved quite a bit but discouraged that my brain symptoms are not making much improvement! Is this typically slower to heal then muscles/tendon/ joints. Hoping for improvement soon to give me more hope!!
Help!!!
Dear lisa,
I took a single doses of cipro 250 antibiotic with a painkiller & a antihistamine four months ago. I also takes magnesium , i remember i maintain some time gap as well but i doubt there is serious interaction ongoing which is causing fatigue, pain, cracking & pooping sound of joints.
Please tell should i stop taking magnesium oral as i am sure this is only happening as i am taking magnesium oral or should i switch to magnesium topical now or after complete depletion of oral magnesium reserves?
Please help, i am in big need.
Thanks,
Varun.
Oh how I cannot thank you enough for this information! I am sitting here now typing through tears because of the horrible journey I have been on for a year now because of medications!!! I just endured a long gi battle after receiving IV levaquin and two weeks ago was given Colton for what was thought to he new onset diverticulitis.
I am in so much pain -my hip,LLQ,knees legs you make it! I have been looking in to this but as many have said Doctors won’t bring themselves to believe it is the medication “an antibiotic” that could cause this but it IS real!!! And it’s interrupting my life.
I have been so sad the last few days even reading this almost panicking,came to the healing tips and your closing remarks I had to tell myself I WILL get better!!!!!
I am a woman of faith -without it I would have already given up:(
Thank you thank you so much for giving me hope from someone like myself who knows too well this terrible terrible battle…..
Any suggestions for muscle pain in the thighs? I’m taking 425 mg magnesium, CoQ10, mag oil and Epsom salt foot soaks. Thanks. This is new. I’ve had weakness but not pain.
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Calcium, K2, and potassium I take one pill. I get all my calcium form yogurt. I know your are avoiding dairy. Can you tolerate goats cheese? Potassium I am uo to 2 or 3 99mg a day. It has taken me 4 weeks to reduce the leg pain Potassium and magnesium were the big hitters, Whenever I have leg pain I take another potassium and foot soak,
Arthritis is gone. I can walk for 15 minutes now, Blood sugar is trending down and I have more energy and am not chronically sleepy anymore. It has been six weeks since I flushed the Cipro out. Each week gets a little easier. All my symptoms come and go. I stopped taking the yogurt as my calcium was satisfied. Silly me, that didn’t last long.
Lisa, thank you! I now have hope of recovering. After 4+ months in a boot (and my other foot starting to exhibit symptoms of a plantar fasciitis-tear) I was truly despairing ever getting better. Severe pain in my shoulders, hips and back mean that my work life, private life, and sleep are all severely diminished.
I had taken Cipro for a urinary tract infection and, when the plantar fasciitis started, was given steroids. I regularly took Ibuprophen for back pain. So, that unholy triumvirate sent me down the rabbit hole of Copro toxicity.
Although I’ve had nowhere near the range of symptoms you had, the pain has been bad enough to send me into significant depression. Now that I know what caused this, my hope is that recovery is down the road. Thank you!
Hi Lisa! I have a question regarding your rash. You said you initially had a rash. When did it go away? Did it go away and come back daily? My story is almost exactly like yours. I took cipro mid sept for a UTI, took midol mid octobe, itch severely then rash a few days later, then muscle ache, severe pains, swelling. All these syptoms have come and gone on a daily basis. Everyday I have a rash, a pain and inflammation, but it isn’t always in the same place as the day before. My rash isnt always the same as in somedays they are raised hives, some are flush red spots some itch and some never itch. My left leg pain and swelling is pretty constant but other areas come and go.I have been to my general doctor who told me my syptoms along with some blood tests that I had some sort of cancer but they didn’t know what kind, which has taken me on a journey to a rheumogologist, 2,hemotologists, dermatologist, obgyn and many sleepless nights. All but 1 denied my Cipro concerns, stating it was too long after my treatment to have any sides effects. After 43 viles of blood and $1000.00 out of pocket expenses. I am ready to self diagnose myself and go with my original gut feeling.the kicker is I originally went to my doctor for back and slight bladder leakage and to get healthy. He stated I had a uti and prescibed me cipro 500mg twice a day for 10 days (I took it for 7), but when share those test results with other doctors they don’t believe that the test indicates a uti to start with!
Anyways I am just starting my journey and trying to make sense out of all of this. So back to my question, did your rash and pain change daily or was it pretty consistent?
Thank you very much !!
Kelsi
I am 79. I live in Scotland. Got cipro several times. I am asthmatic and took it with prednisolone. I woke one night with severe pain in my leg and along the sole of my foot. Saw my GP who said I should never have cipro again. Two years later I still have burning pain in my leg and along the sole of my foot. Increases when I am on steroids and antibiotics but I have no choice as I have regular lung infections. Go for acupuncture weekly and think this is keeping me on my feet. Seem to be in a catch22 situation.
John, last time you posted you were having a rough time with your muscle aches and pains. I am hoping that you are doing better and improving? I was thinking about you and wanted to check on you! I really hope you are going better!! I am 6 months out and “slowly” seem to be improving. I hope it continues on that path!!! I have mostly CNS issues which I have heard takes longer to heal! I hope this finds you doing much better!!!! Dee
John,
I think some people with FQ toxicity tolerate anesthesia with fluorine and some have setbacks. You might want to check on the anesthesia and see if it has fluorine.
Quick healing to you!
Deb
John, are you doing ok?? I hope you are getting stronger and improving!! How is your back doing? I hope you are home and out of your pain getting stronger and better each and everyday!!! Sending good healing thoughts to you!!!
A brain burns oil so it uses less glucose. And More is stored.
You you should be seeing some brain f0g relief. Next is vitamin D. Vitamin D needs vitamin K two to work. You can get vitamin from a pill or pork fat. Three strips of juicy bacon is enough for a week. Heat destroys the vitamin so crisp bacon is useless. When your vitamin D level reach 30 it starts to work on your brain and you should feel very sleepy, and sleep should be deep.
The artificial sweeteners dissolve the Glut1 protein from your Brain. This is Most effective transporter for getting glucose into your brain and muscles.
Caffeine also resolves Glut1 . To break the caffeine addiction to start sipping your coffee until you feel the benefit and then stop. When you get down to 3 cups A day. Switch to decaf. When you are down to one cup always shipping until it goes away then switched to Green tea. You will have many gays when you will not even think of green tea.
The other symptoms just disappeared for me during this process. I don’t know about ton your other symptoms just disappeared for me during this process. I don’t know about tinnitus. Except untilDo you reach the state little is likely to work because your brain is not functioning normally.
Lisa
I took cipro on and off for uti for weeks before (and after) my prostectomy 5 months ago. I am 70. I had no reaction to it then except minor leg pain that went away in few days. However, one week ago both my legs started to ache to the point cant sleep or walk. I recently retired and this is ruining my lfe, I am very frustrared and scared. Urologist says call my GP who has no idea what to do. But i am sure it was Cipro!
I have many questions:
1) Is your website (floxiehope.com), i dont know social media just found you by search engine.
2) How do you get beets? Raw from grocer ,or the common beet powder advertised now.
3) Magnesium and potassium supplements helped a few days but 250 mg/day seems low? How much can you take as trial?
4) Is accupuctue covered by medicare and plan F supplement?
5) Is it better to stay on your feet or in bed? Wife tells me to get up and not think about it but normal chores seem to make it worse.
6) I am in st louis county (chesterfield 63005) but dont know how to find good accupinturist. I am sure there are good and bad ones like everything. What wound he need to know (from your experience) to help me?
7) There is also a website that sells a “Leviquin Cure” or something like that name for $29? Is that worth buying?
8) Are muscle relaxers good to help me sleep?
9) I am so dense i didnt even notice the replies below. Just got this iphone
And have nt figured it out . Probably answers down there
Thanks Bill
Dee,
You also need protein in your blood.
To build cartilage need magnesium calcium potassium collagen that makes cartilage, glucosamine chondroid and MSM combined with vitamin D. The last you have to make in your Body And it takes sunlight to provide the energy of combination. You need a sunlamp that you can get from Grainger.com I don’t know the item number But it is listed in a prior post.
Since you are a Flexi I would start with the Cartlidge when you get all chemistry set up should feel a difference of three or four days.
As for me I am still in thehospital