I was floxed twice.
The first time was in July of 2016 for a suspected UTI. There was no UTI. The bacterial culture came back negative, but no one ever called me to tell me to stop the antibiotics. I finished the entire prescribed dose of Cipro. Something was happening to me but I never attributed it to the Cipro until almost 2 years later when it happened again.
Like many others, I bounced around to doctor’s appointments in search for answers. I had written down a list of my symptoms at that time to bring to my rheumatologist’s appointment:
1st time floxed (August 2016):
– random episodes of dizziness
– eye floaters
– tinitus (I already had it in one ear due to some unilateral hearing loss, but developed it in the other ear)
– depersonalization
– anxiety and feeling of hopelessness
– feeling very down
– random bouts of crying
– tendon pain all over
– joint pain
– feeling that my bones were trying to break out of my skin
– intense fatigue
– weakness, like my legs were heavy and couldn’t sustain my body
– intense arm and leg pain
– calf cramping
– terrible insomnia
– heart racing, beating hard and fast
– hair loss
– dry eye
– liver pain (started months later)
– what I thought was heart pain…likely costochondritis (months later)
To compare, 2nd time floxed (May 2018)
– all above symptoms
– vibrating sensations, primarily in legs, arms and face
– face numb (not positive if it was the quinolones or not)
– nerve pain/tingling/numbness all over body
– muscle twitching
New symptoms kept showing up each week. The symptoms were cyclical. I could go weeks with the horrible pain and fatigue, and then it would taper for weeks at a time to almost nothing. Each time I’d feel better, I thought it was all gone for good, only for it to return again. I never took magnesium because I didn’t know to. I did start to eat cleaner (did the Whole30 diet for a month, ate and still eat gluten and dairy free and overall was conscious of what I put into my body). The only thing I took was Vitamin C, D, and a probiotic. I never took NSAIDs, thankfully, as I now know that could have made my situation worse.
Four months later at the end of October 2016, my husband and I went to the beach in Florida. I remember that I was at a peak of pain, sitting on the airplane, feeling anxious and wanting to cry, every part of my body hurt. At one point a few days into our vacation, after being in the ocean for hours each day, I felt like I was going through a pretty intense detox. I was at the worst of all of the pain and sensations of the entire past few months. I cried to the pharmacist, begging for something that could provide relief. I left empty handed which was not a bad thing. The next day, all pain was gone. Just like that. The anxiety was gone. My body felt strong. And it never returned to that magnitude again. When people say it has to get worse before it gets better, it’s really true. Embrace the bad because it will get you to the good!
What remained (now looking back):
– random joint and tendon pain that would crop up here and there
– dry eye cleared up but took a few extra months
– my left hand still tingles at random
– I continued to play soccer, and my left calf would cramp up so bad within minutes of playing, so badly that eventually I had to stop playing. This only started after Quinolones.
The second time I was floxed was in May of 2018 for a suspected sinus infection that I never did have. I took that first Avelox/Moxifloxacin pill and felt something was wrong as I woke up that night unable to straighten out my knee. I took the second pill the following day. I began to notice my legs were incredibly weak…it was difficult to walk. I went to the ER, and they told me to stop this antibiotic immediately. It was helpful that nearly every doctor and pharmacist that I talked to believed me, or had heard of this as a possible reaction to Quinolones. I’m thankful for that. One pharmacist stated that this antibiotic is becoming a real problem the longer it’s on the market. People think they are fine taking it once, twice, ten times, until suddenly the ‘bomb’ goes off in your body. I’m glad recognition is starting, so that this antibiotic class can be reserved for times where absolutely necessary.
Everyone assumed that since I was off the antibiotic, my symptoms would improve. But that was when everything got so much worse. I had less intense cycles of pain this time around. This time my symptoms were more steady (from worse to less worse, but never gone and mainly bad). That made me wonder if this time my symptoms would become permanent. The only thing that I could say that was better this time compared to my first floxed experience was that I didn’t have the intense flu-like fatigue, maybe because I stopped after two pills this second time around, or maybe because it was Avelox instead of Cipro. I was tired, but not the same intensity. One day it clicked, that this is what happened to me 2 years prior. It was frightening to know that I did this to myself for the second time, and for no good reason. The effects are cummulative and I wondered if maybe I wouldn’t pull through this time.
The insomnia kicked in about 2 weeks in. I hated it. Heart pounding and racing in the middle of the night, unable to sleep…but I knew this time what was happening to me so I would tell myself that I had to ride this out. The anxiety and random crying was so uncharacteristic of me, that I could remember crying and telling my husband that this was not me, that this was the antibiotic, and that it would pass. It did. I never had mental health issues before taking Quinolones, and I haven’t since. If you are suffering from the anxiety, I think it’s one of the worst of all the symptoms…it really will pass. You WILL feel normal again, especially if you didn’t suffer from it before. Just keep reminding yourself, it’s not you, it’s the anbitiobics!
About two months in, I started losing so much hair (for you women who have had babies: just like post-partum hair loss).
Three months in, I started with the nerve pain. This time, like hot lava being poured on my head. My trigeminal nerve on both sides of my face would burn. My spine would burn. My abdomen would burn. My face and scalp would go entirely numb and tight, like I was wearing a mask. This was a frightening new symptom. Crawling and tingling all over my body from head to toe. I kept thinking I had insects crawling on me. My skin felt like it was vibrating all over. I knew that because I was floxed for the second time, I would need more time to heal than the first time. I would give myself daily pep talks, willing myself to be better and stronger. God has taught me many things through this, and patience was one of them! I sure did lean on Him during these months.
What I took this second time around: Vitamin C, B Complex, Magnesium Glycinate, Iodine (tiny amounts and for a short amount of time) to help flush out the excess fluoride, Vitamin E (short amount of time), eating well, going to the beach again (replenishing those lost trace minerals). I also did epsom salt feet/leg soaks every single night for about 30 minutes for months. I had read that it is a great way to replenish magnesium, and I would notice if I missed a day or two.
I never sat around and felt sorry for myself…for long. I think I cried every single day for 5 months, but I made myself stop each time. And I never cry about it anymore. I knew this wasn’t the real me, but what the Quinolones were doing to me as they messed with every part of my body and mind. If you have been floxed, you know that Quinolones affect you at the cellular level. Your mitochondria is destroyed. Everything is poisoned. But God made our bodies to heal…give it time. I knew I was getting better when for two days, just like the first time, everything got so much worse. I couldn’t get up off the floor to put one foot in front of the other. It was pain, fatigue, crying, but strangely I felt like “this is a good thing! I’m almost at the finish line!”. And it was true. Following that was the biggest leap of improvement in the entire process. Just after that we went to the beach and I’ve been so much better since.
I know what it’s like to feel like your body is dying from the inside out. I didn’t want to appear weak, but I did. I have four young kids, a loving church family, and an amazing family…they saw me at my lowest which is incredibly humbling. My husband gave me so many foot massages, I could cry thinking of how wonderful he was to me during that time. And oh, my family and friends! I had meals, help at home, and more. A small glass of wine before bed from time to time really helped my overactive system (I have read so many people saying that it helped, and it’s weirdly true). You have to keep smiling, keep moving, keep hoping, keep praying. The months and years seem long and the future uncertain, but most people heal eventually. Maybe not exactly as you were before, but pretty close! That sounded upsetting when I’d read that people after one or two years were “85%” or “90%” healed. I wanted to be 100% healed! And I understand the frustration of not being able to do everything you did before. I was very active and there is a lot I still can’t do, but there is a lot I can do. Honestly, I think you will be so relieved when the initial horrible symptoms are gone that you won’t mind being 85% healed as much as you thought you would. You’ll be grateful.
I remember the first time I took a long walk, and realized I didn’t feel like dying after! It felt like such a gift. It almost seems silly now, now that I’ve improved so much. I sometimes ask myself, did I just even go through that? TWICE? The reality is that my body is still healing, and I don’t know if I’m in a better cycle, or if I’m good go to with continuing on the healing…but just having these days gives hope that I’m on the healing track. I can handle life like this. I’m nearly at the 6 month mark! It’s only going to get better from here.
And as some extra advice, once I realized just how frightening the stories on google were for this, stories of permanent damage and the medical articles on Quinolone Toxicity and what it does to the body, I stayed off for good. When I felt low, I would pray…our God hears and cares about our suffering. And then I would read recovery story after recovery story on Floxie Hope to remind myself that I too could heal eventually. I’m so glad this site exists! The recovery stories really gave me hope, but also helped explain what was happening to me. The first time I went through this, I had no idea what was going on with me and that was disheartening in its own way. This time, I did, which made it that much easier. Be patient. Keep busy even in pain and fatigue. Walk as much as you are able, and push yourself a little more each day. Allow people to be around you and even to help you.
Thank you for taking the time to read this. If you are suffering with Fluoroquinolone/Quinolone toxicity, it will get better!
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hi. what did you do for the derealization ?…:( week 7 now and so acute . along with other simpthoms i have this is one is bringing me down. also.. how long you had that feeling for ? thank you
I’m so sorry you are feeling that too. You have to ride it out. It started to improve about 5 months in. Really, hang in there and keep reminding yourself that it will pass!
Hello, thank you for your story! It is great that you are doing much better! Wish you to have full health back. How many FQs did you take total? (pills/mg) What your vision issues? You mentioned floaters… Did they come “overnight” or was progressive worsening to some point? Had you blurry or double vision problems?
Hi Melissa
Wow what a trooper your story is truly amazing.
15 days in (early days, haha)- but I really want to kick this thing in the was.
Mainly suffering with fatigue, brain fog and really sore joints and nerve pain in leg stopping me walking.
What iodine supplement did you take I wonder? And how much.
Thank you !
Hi Melissa.
Just wondering if you still have neuropathy(tinglin, numbness, and nerve pain) and if you did anything for it ?
Hi. How long after the 1st floxing did your symptoms start improving and what percentage recovery were you at at the time of the 2nd floxing? Thanks.
Hi Melissa,
I’m enduring post-floxing symptoms since 5months now. The main unbearable symptom is intense fatigue.
How many time does your fatigue last and how did you cope with it ?
Did you take something to lessen it ?
Thanks by advance for your help.
Lila
Thank you for sharing your beautiful story of recovery. I’m inspired!
im about 5 months in was floxed by levaquin for a sinus infection that want responding to amoxiclav..anyway my joints still hury and my shoulders knees and tendons ..i have neurapathy and gor some reason all gets hurt when the humidity goes up…does anyone know why..sorry for everyone on here experiencing all these side effects …
Hey Melissa. How do you know if your regressing with new symptoms or is it just part of the process ? Im getting new symptoms and its freaking me out.
Hi melissa. I had levaquin in february and cipro/macrobid in april. My symptoms of fatigue and minor tendon issues and peripheral neuropathy came on 6 weeks after macrobid or cipro. I had dark spots on my feet that went away 4 months in and then dizziness, weakness, tremors started in the 5th month. This is really rat poison that they gave us. I never knew an antibiotic could damage all systems of the body.
Hey Melissa. Do you filter your drinking water and shower water at all?
Oh, Melissa, thank you for your inspirational testimonial. You give me hope. Are you not gluten free, but dairy free, as you said in your statement? I always get advised to eliminate gluten, #1, and dairy, not as important to get out of my diet, although dairy removal is emphasized. The diet thing is hugely confusing. I’m told to have bone broth, but the bones of livestock having drank fluoridated water, are extra packed with fluoride. I’ve been advised, by someone who’s an authority on fluoride poisoning, to have as close to zero as possible, fluoride anywhere near or in my life.
I am 7 weeks in… today was a great day I went shopping wore cute boots and did good was out for a couple hours.. wrapped Christmas presents … my hands and arms feel a bit wan but I’d say today was the closest I’ve felt to normal in a while… all my symptoms are pain related.. arms, legs, feet, ankles, hands, wrists, fingers, shoulders , back, neck and hips,, the pain cycles … and I’m guessing neuropathy because I get some tingly , vibration and muscle twitching… I think that’s the biggest thing I’m worried about. I don’t want to lose the use of my arms and legs
Hi Melissa:)
Happy New Year! I am having terrible shoulder pain that I think is my rotator cuff. I did lots of decorating over the holidays which was so therapeutic for me. I picked up my 3 grandkids they are 4, 2 & 1. Now my arms are hurting a lot. I’m just wondering if you had any pain in your shoulders and did it resolve? I’m just having a little spiral and could use a friend to help me remain positive. Thank you Melissa:)
Hey Melissa!
I am always in Canada and took cirpo two pills and now have muscle weakness and muscle pain and tingling/numbness changing throughout my body?
when did yours start to go away?
Hi Melissa. Your story is truly inspiring. Your numbing tingling nerve pain you experienced. How long did it last before it passed? Currently experiencing that cycle.
Hi Melissa. I was so inspired to read your story. I am three weeks in after taking 8 doses of 500mg tabs of Cipro prescribed for a skin infection and experiencing and have experienced many symptoms similar to you, including brain fog, numbness, joint pain, anxiety, bouts of crying, intense fatigue, weakness, like my legs are heavy and can’t sustain my body, arm and leg pain, back pain. The worst symptom by far is the fatigue. I have two small children and a full time job. I have only been working part time from home for the last couple of weeks but will have to return full time by first of March. I feel as if I need to stop and take a break after even doing the simplest of household chores or just walking to the kitchen. I have started some magnesium, CoQ10, and multivitamins. It waxes and wanes. I can leave the house for brief periods and sometimes feel better when I do, but then cannot function later in the day. And I am having sleep disturbances which makes energy levels worse as I am not getting enough sleep. I am trying to get an appointment with a Naturopathic Doctor next week. Of course I didn’t realize what was happening at first but just knew something was wrong. The doctor has tested me for just about everything and all results are negative. Most specialists wont see me because on their lab results there is nothing wrong. This is the most frustrating part. I know you said that after the first time it took about 4 months before your symptoms started to subside, did that include the fatigue? that one is most bothersome for me right now as I feel like I cannot function. I don’t know what to do so that I am not so fatigued when I stand up and walk any short distance. I had to travel last week for work and walking the length of the airport about did me in I was so exhausted after that I didn’t think I would make it home. I am so glad to have found this site and some positive stories it gives me hope.
I am only three weeks out- starting week four, so i cannot tell you if they are here and then gone weeks at a time yet, some new symptoms keep popping up and others have seemed to have subsided for now at least. It is almost like my body is cycling through them. The brain fog is no where near what it was when I had initial onset, and some of the joint pain has moved. Where it affected my elbows and shoulders badly before I do not feel it anymore and was able to hold my three year old today and pick him up, which was something I could’t do a couple of weeks ago. Also the also the fatigue come on in strange waves some times it is just an all day feeling of tired and other days I feel ok and am moving around and then it hits me like a ton of bricks. As I have read other people describe it is like someone pulled the plug. I have been taking magnesium, CoQ10 (just ordered some MitoQ at recommendations here), multivitamins, selenium, probiotics, tart cherry juice in the evening, NAC, and B12 Methyl. I believe something is helping although I cannot tell you what exactly. Maybe it is my belief that something is helping. ???? I think the magnesium which I started first and have been taking the longest and CoQ10 are helping some symptoms aren’t as severe but still present. I have less anxiety and insomnia although still present and less total body “humming” as I have been calling it, when I lay down my body seems calmer and not as wired-up. It’s a tough feeling to describe. I also think movement helps if i keep active i feel better, but just have to deal with the fatigue and I listen to my body instead of trying to push through i take a break as needed which is often lately, but some days not as bad. I found an incredible Functional medicine doctor who has dealt with this before but have to wait for an appointment for a couple weeks. I am hoping he can help me regulate the supplements and provide insight on any additional treatments for detoxes and such. I have read incredible things on this site but it is all a bit much for me to try and navigate on my own without some guidance. I don’t want to harm myself any more by taking or doing something that may counter act. I think what I am doing is helpful and a good start. I also found two doctors at a university hospital who I have been told deal in all sorts of antibiotic toxicities including Cipro and have a call into their office. They are Infectious Disease specialists but the department head said I should try them as they have experience with this. we shall see. Thanks for the reply. this is really a great site and great community and I hope to one day share my recovery story if it will help anyone else.
SueL (my user name changed after I created an account sorry for confusion I cant figure out how to revert it)
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