Floxie Hope


This site is to give HOPE to those who are suffering from Fluoroquinolone Toxicity Syndrome as a result of being poisoned by fluoroquinolone antibiotics – Cipro, Levaquin, Avelox, Floxin, etc.  It contains stories of healing.

Cipro, Levaquin, Avelox and all other fluoroquinolones are dangerous drugs that can have devastating effects that cumulatively I’ll refer to as Fluoroquinolone Toxicity Syndrome or Floxing.  Fluoroquinolone Toxicity Syndrome/Floxing includes damage to connective tissue (tendons, ligaments, cartilage, fascia, etc.) throughout the body, damage to the nervous systems (central, peripheral and autonomic), and more. The damage done by fluoroquinolone antibiotics can destroy a person’s quality of life or even kill them. Certainly, there is a time and a place for drugs with dangerous side effects. If you find yourself in a septic shock induced coma, fluoroquinolones may save your life. Unfortunately, these drugs are not being reserved for life or death situations. People are being prescribed them for urinary tract infections, suspected prostate infections, upper respiratory infections, as a prophylactic for travelers’ diarrhea, ear infections, pink eye, etc. Thousands of people have suffered needlessly from the devastating effects of fluoroquinolone antibiotics, when another, safer antibiotic could have, and should have, been used.

The damage done by fluoroquinolones is largely unacknowledged by the medical establishment and an accurate diagnosis, compensation and relief are difficult to come by. There is no known cure for Fluoroquinolone Toxicity Syndrome/Floxing.  However, many people continue to LIVE after being poisoned by fluroquinolones.  They find healing, recovery, perseverance, compassion and hope.  These are their stories.

This site is meant to give hope for healing to those who are adversely effected by fluoroquinolones.  It is no way meant to disregard the pain of those who are chronically suffering from the horrifying effects of Cipro, Levaquin, Avelox or the other fluoroquinolones.  There are people who don’t recover.  Their stories are real and they matter.  There are also people who are able to recover and I share their stories with the hope that they inspire others, or at least give hope that recovery is possible.

Here is a New York Times article about the dangers of fluoroquinolone antibiotics – http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/10/popular-antibiotics-may-carry-serious-side-effects/?_r=0 – more news stories, research papers and other resources can be found on the “Links and Resources” page.

Here is a Facebook group that is a great resource for those going through Fluoroquinolone Toxicity – https://www.facebook.com/groups/floxies/

Featured post – I’m floxed. Now what?

The Fluoroquinolone Toxicity Solution Ebook has helped many Floxies to recover, including DanielCindy and Ruth.  As a bonus, you will also receive The Floxie Food Guide – a book of diet guidelines to help you through fluoroquinolone toxicity:

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26,042 thoughts on “Floxie Hope

  1. John Taylor January 9, 2021 at 9:17 pm Reply


    My abnormal peristalsis or lack of I intestinal flow was caused by a lack of Magnesium chloride. I have been low on magnesium since I was floxed. Even through I read Caroline Dean’s book on magnesium cover to cover and MgCl oil and lotion it was low. After I got out of the hospital my back muscles were so sore I had to lie flat for most of the day. I would put a towel soaked in Mg Cl solution on my back and get relief. So I read the book again and realized MgCl is very important. For muscle relaxation. I added MG CL in my foot soak and did soaked twice a day. It took 5 months before my muscles stopped aching. I also had to restrict Vitamin D (so as not to use up the free Mg and make my back and stomach sore again.

    In the hospital, the blood doctor gave me bag after bag of magnesium sulphate to raise my Mg level. I wasn’t smart enough to ask for MgCl at that time. It took 4-5 days for my bowels,to,function at all and the they were fairly normal,after a month. Back soreness and charley horse occurred until,the five month time.

    So my stomach problems were caused by the Cipro.

    I had been taking Borax at low levels for 7 months and my blood glucose was dropping before the stomach shut down. I was running 2.3 degrees cold and taking thyroid supplements to,help but thye raised my blood glucose so I would stop and wait for the glucose level to return to 160. So for 5 months my blood glucose cycled between 160 and 190.

    A month after leaving the hospital I lost the Floxie feeling. I believe the Borax had removed enough of the antibiotics that they were not destroying me faster than the supplements could effect repairs. I think the Borax was amd co tiniest to,be helpful.But the problem is repairing one thing can steal nutrients from other area and cause problems there. As my magnesium levels returned closer to,normal, the back soreness wa satisfied amd the magnesium decency signal settled on arthritis in my left thumb only. Now that is gone 28 days a month. I have been able to raise my Vitamin D levels without stealing Mg from my muscles now.

    Caroline Dean recommends 13 magnesium salts for various conditions. I take 5. I keep reading her book to see what else I should be doing.

    I am slow;y getting better. I am only 1.2 degrees cold now. I think the Borax is still helping. I started taking a Boron salt to see if that would remove antibiotics. If it does, it is a minor effect. However today for the fourth time of taking one Boron pill amd hours later I get a significant discharge food intolerance mucus. They I wait a few days for the mucus to stop and do it again. I think the food intolerance mucus in dry form is stored in my organs. Getting rid of it is helpful.

    It is an ongoing saga but I feel more and more I am moving away from the clutches of being a Floxie.


    John Taylor

    • Fred S January 14, 2021 at 4:41 pm Reply

      John – quick question. When you say that you lost the Floxie feeling, what were the symptoms you had? Did your energy and joints improve?


      • John Taylor January 18, 2021 at 7:52 pm Reply

        Fred S,

        I had been feeling various improvements for 3 years. Arthritis in my left hand would come and go and I felt it was a sign of Mg level.(At first I had constant pain in both hands.) But I always felt a general malais and would be tired. sluggish during the day. Then I last that feeling and had more energy. I also noticed that repairs of all kinds of things werre going at a faster pace. It was a sharp transition.

        John Taylor

  2. Don M January 10, 2021 at 7:07 pm Reply

    John…… I asked this question earlier but you were off line and I never got your opinion. With the Borax I want to use the ounce daily routine but I want to take it at bedtime and let it work over night when there is very little else going on. That way I could take some supplements during the day. Your opinion?

    • John Taylor January 13, 2021 at 7:06 am Reply

      Hi Don,

      You can take Borax a lot of different ways. Your plan is a good option. When you start your morning drink 2-3 ounces of olive oil to remove the Borax and wait two hours so two give the oil time to remove the Borax. The start the supplements. One of the toxic effects of Borax is it will remove the oils anywhere including the brain cell surface so double up on Omega 3 fish oil to recover from t his.

      I do prefer a day or two being on Borax but if I really needed the supplements, I would do your 8 hours. The key is to remove the Borax when you switch back.

      Is the. borax helping?

      I would like to find a less toxic removal agent. I tried a Boron Supplements and it removed food intolerance waste very. Efficiently but raised my blood glucose and lowered my temperature. This is the same result when I take an organ supplement.

      I get 1/3rd of my calories from oil to help the diabetes. Stopping oil just by itself should raise my blood glucose anyway. I kept up the oil while taking Boron. The Boron experiment took 6 weeks as blood glucose doesn’t respond quickly. It takes that long to get an answer.

      It took me 10 months to lose the Floxie feeling using the 8 hour on and 16 hours of supplements. I used 1/6 teaspoon of Borax a day. Using 1/4 should speed things up. And using oil to clear out the borax should help the supplements. So this discussion has been forward putting. We have a better protocol and maybe we are getting close to optimal.

      I am still trying different time periods of being on borax. I am having a very difficult time removing Clindamycin l took to prevent a skin infection from hand surgery. The contraindication say avoid multitvalentions. Mg seemed to help initial ally, then the borax but my blood glucose is still 30 points higher than my lowest prior numbers.

      John Taylor

    • John Taylor January 14, 2021 at 7:11 am Reply

      Don M,
      I have been thinking further about your question and have concluded the 8 hours of Borax followed by supplements for 16 hours is a the best yet Protocol for Borax.
      1- I removed enough of the toxins that way to stop the Floxie feeling and my body experienced a rapid increase in repairs. That took 10 months with the 1/16 teaspoon daily. ¼ teaspoon daily should be faster or perhaps 2 ½ months. That should be fast enough. What would be the point of spending time on finding a faster rate?
      2- The drinking of 3 ounces of Olive oil to clear out the Borax before taking the supplements should make then more effective than what I was doing.
      3- Now you can watch how effective the supplements are and adjust the amount of Borax so things are improving. In my case I monitor blood glucose, temperature, and how many fully alert hours I get per day once I get up in the morning. The Borax drives these in the wrong direction in the short term but it does remove the toxins which drives them in the right direction in the long term. So it is a question of balance. This would be easy to adjust the daily dose of Borax to keep things improving. It is probably better for your body to have less toxic effect from the Borax before the supplements start repairs again.
      4- Once you find the steady state Borax dosage, you can look at new effects while maintaining both the Borax removal and supplement improvement without waiting for the swings from a periodic Borax multiple days usage to settle out. This is a big advantage.

      In my case I don’t think the Clindamycin I took in November is out of my system yet. None of my trend charts have returned to the pre-Clindamycin levels. The drug literature says avoid multivalent Ions so I am going to add all of them to my protocol and see what happens. It takes about 3 weeks to see an effect. With everything else stable, this speeds up my search to repair my body.

      Thanks for your help.
      John Taylor

  3. Tricia January 12, 2021 at 5:55 pm Reply

    A. Coleman
    I wonder how many floxies experience a flare following covid??? It would be interesting to know.
    I hope you recover quicky!

  4. Aga January 13, 2021 at 2:01 am Reply

    Hi guys,

    Happy New Year to everybody. I have a question re N-Acetylcysteine, have you tried it? What was your experience with it? Any side effects?


  5. Andrea January 13, 2021 at 4:52 am Reply

    Hi guys.
    Yesterday, after a month, I’ve checked my vitamin D and calcium blood levels again. Remember, there’re mounting studies that shows how having optimal vitamin D levels it’s protective against the virus, but of course the governments, the Italian government here in particular, keep saying there’s no proof about that. Besides, I’ve always noticed, since being floxed, how vitamin D it’s super important as far as pain menagment for me.
    So, in just a month, my levels raised from 53.3 to 70.2 ng/dl, which is good, but also the calcium increased from 10 to 10.4, wich is not good, since the upper limit is 10.6. I’m almost sure that this tremendous increase is due to the boron supplementation, which II’ve been taking for about 2/2.5 months. Boron is known to increase vitamin D serum levels and also support/regulates the mineralization of bones and cartilages. Anyway, I’ve decided to give boron a break and in another month, see what my blood results look like. I’ll keep you updated.

    To Aga, Sorry, but I’ve never took N-Acetylcysteine, so I can’t help you, but why are interested in it?

    • Aga January 13, 2021 at 8:00 am Reply

      Hi Andrea,

      I’ve recently read about NAC, it is an amino acid that apparently increases glutathione levels and therefore supports detoxification of the liver and wanted to try that.
      I know that some people take glutathione supplements, but I’ve read different opinions about that and I’m reluctant to take it. If NAC can boost the glutathione levels it could be healthier option to help the detox process. But not sure about side effects and if that actually helps.

      • Andrea January 13, 2021 at 1:34 pm Reply

        UHm…I don’t know what to suggest, Aga. What are your symptoms right now and how long have you been in this situation (floxed)?
        To me, it’s always better to stick to the essential supplements we all nedd (a good multimineral maybe once a week, it depends of course from case to case, some magnesium and, in if you don’t expose your skin to sun for at least 30 minutes a day, vitamin d+k2 for better absorbtion. Also maybe a good multivitamin, if you lack some vitamin, like for example b12 etc.).
        Taking something, just because you’ve read “it helps detoxify the liver”, to me doesn’t really mean anyhting. Of course, that’s just my opinion, but why risking to take something that can be potentially harmful. Take my case : this boron supplement did what it was supposed to do, so drammatically increasing my vitamin d levels, but at the same time, I’m now experiencing high levels of calcium, which it’s not good…

        • Aga January 19, 2021 at 3:08 am

          Hi Andrea,

          I’ve been floxed for 1 year and 3 months now. My symptoms comes and go, but the most frequent are tendons and bones pain. I take magnesium bisglycinate 100 mg 3 times a day and also use magnesium oil. I’ve recently started taking cod fish oil and vit. K2. To detox my liver I use milk thistle currently and wanted to try something else to speed that process up.
          Recently I have been diagnose with dysglycemia, likely due to Cipro as well.
          I don’t have the prediabetic profile, I’m 39 years old, my current weight is 61 kg and I’m 171 tall. I never had issues with glucose levels before taking Cipro. I’ve read some studies/hypotesis that fluoroquinolones can lead to dysglycemia due to magnesium depletion. I’ve recently had my blood tests done and despite the fact that I take 300mg of Mg daily + Mg from food sources (cacao, almonds, etc.) my magnesium levels are at the minimum levels (1.9). So not sure what else I can do to boost it up. To control glucose levels, I had to switch to low carb and no sugar diet and in three months I will have my tests repeated.
          My vit. D levels are in norm, but low as well (38.7), that’s why I’ve started with cod fish old and vit. K2. I also expose myself to sun almost every day for at least 20 min.
          Levels of calcium, iron and vit. from group B are O.K.

      • Madge Hirsch January 14, 2021 at 1:25 pm Reply

        I have taken NAC (600mg a day ) for awhile now. It is supposed to support the immune system and I haven’t had any cold or flu all the time I have been taking it. I can’t say I’ve noticed any side effects except a somewhat sulphurous odour in my urine. This comes and goes.

        • Aga January 19, 2021 at 2:44 am

          Hi Madge,

          Thank you for responding. I’ve read that recommended dose is 600 mg a day. For how long have you been taking it?

  6. David January 17, 2021 at 7:27 pm Reply

    I’m excited to hear from anyone who has any research on whether Floxies will be able to take the COVID vaccine. We have mitochondrial damage. Will this vaccine worsen our condition?

    • A.Coleman January 19, 2021 at 3:04 pm Reply

      David, I suspect that most floxies will be just fine with the COVID vaccine. I had COVID (see my post on the previous page) and recovered much like I suspect I would have without being a floxie. That recovery taxed my body’s reserves and I am in a relapse now; but I don’t think COVID directly caused that.

      While I tend to avoid the seasonal flu vaccine since I don’t feel the benefits outweigh the risk the COVID vaccine is a different situation. I am sure I have some natural immunity left for a few months, but I will be taking the COVID vaccine when it is offered. I fall in the final group in the US, so don’t anticipate getting the vaccine until June or July; so we’ll have plenty of evidentiary data before it is my turn.

      • Andrea January 19, 2021 at 3:17 pm Reply

        While we’re at it, why do you guys think certain people are more inclined to get covid and certain don’t? Is it just a matter of immune stystem or is there something else?
        What’s your opinion?

  7. John Taylor January 18, 2021 at 7:54 pm Reply

    Fred S,

    I had been feeling various improvements for 3 years. Arthritis in my left hand would come and go and I felt it was a sign of Mg level.(At first I had constant pain in both hands.) But I always felt a general malais and would be tired. sluggish during the day. Then I last that feeling and had more energy. I also noticed that repairs of all kinds of things werre going at a faster pace. It was a sharp transition.

    John Taylor

  8. Jacob Link January 20, 2021 at 3:30 pm Reply

    I am recently floxed. I stopped taking Cipro yesterday morning after 6 days being on it. Last night my feet started tingling and my muscles became weak. Today, my knee feels like it will explode and the tingling in my legs is bothersome. I am in full panic. I read the tips, but am wondering if there is anything else I can be doing.

    • Don M January 20, 2021 at 8:14 pm Reply

      Jacob Link … Are you taking ALA (alpha lipoic acid)? It is supposed to be beneficial for nerve problems. The RALA (R-alpha lipoic acid) is better than plain ALA. Also more expensive. Are you taking magnesium? Magnesium is a muscle relaxant. Magnesium really helps with muscle problems. Topical magnesium which is magnesium chloride dissolved in distilled water rubbed on the sore muscle (muscle cramps) will help to relieve it almost immediately. Learn about magnesium by reading the book by Dr. Carolyn Dean “The Magnesium Miracle? Available at Amazon. Do you know your body’s magnesium level? The simple magnesium test only is a snapshot of the mag level in the blood at that time. Less than 2% of the body’s mag is in the blood so it is a cheap but poor method of gaging the body’s mag level, The better test is the RBC Mag test. It checks the mag level in the red blood cells. Most insurances won’t pay for it but you can order it directly from Request a test https://requestatest.com/ Cost is about $50 to $60.
      Dr. Carolyn Dean says that with the RBC blood test your mag level should be at about 6.
      Fluoroquinolones ( Cipro and others) deplete the magnesium in the body so it is important to supplement to keep the level up. Dr. Dean also says that magnesium pills are only from 4% 20% effective and getting enough by pills can cause diarrhea. She recommends liquid magnesium which she claims bypasses the digestive system so the diarrhea problem is eliminated. Some liquids are Remag, Angstrom, Good State Ionic Magnesium.
      For more information go back and read the posts by John Taylor.
      Being floxed is “NO” fun but there are things you can do to mitigate the discomfort. Just takes some reading and researching.

    • Don M January 21, 2021 at 4:46 am Reply

      Jacob Link …. Along with what I have already written look into light therapy for pain like the joints of knees. Research “Cold Laser”, and bulbs and panels that have light emitting diodes that are in the 660nm red and 850nm infrared range. Light therapy does work!!! Heating pads that are “infrared” work. Heating pads that are infrared pads are more expensive than regular ones but they work much better. Bulbs can be bought for less than $40. Panels can be bought for around $75. Hand held battery operated Cold Lasers that are effective are expensive. They run from about $900 up. The cheaper ones do not have enough power to be really effective. Avoid investing in them. Let me repeat …. Light therapy works for relieving pain!!! Light therapy does not last to long but since it is non invasive it can be repeated as often as one wishes.
      Also go to the internet and look into PEMF. Read about the Bob Beck protocol.

      Click to access beck-protocol-handbook.pdf

      I know these facts to be true because I use them daily. I have available a Cold Laser, a 660nm and 850nm bulb, a 225 LED 660nm and 850nm light panel, and an infrared heating pad. I also have a PEMF unit. I TAKE NO PAIN MEDS! When I hurt (which is most of the time) I use one or more of the gadgets to mitigate pain. Bottom line … Light therapy and PEMF work and it can be used as often as wanted because it is non invasive. Try it.

      • Don M January 22, 2021 at 7:05 am Reply

        Sorry … Sorry about how the Bob Beck Protocol posted. I really only meant for it to be the web site URL.

    • Andrea January 21, 2021 at 5:17 pm Reply

      Jacob, I’m so sorry to read you’ve been recently “floxed”.
      Is there anything else you can be doing? YES, DON’T PANIC! I know it sounds stupid to you right now, but that’s the only real thing that it’s going to help you at this particular moment. Mark my words. Supplements, vitamins, minerals etc…you’ll will take them, and they will proably help you, but the first thing you have to overcome, it’s the shock of finding out what just happened to you.
      You’re dealing with a serious, difficult situation, that causes a lot of oxydative stress to your body, so adding mental stress to it, it’s just going to make things worse. So, try to be calm and rational as much as you can (I know, easier said than done).
      With this being said, and I hope I didn’t brought you down with my brutal introduction, why don’t you tell us something about you : your age, previous health situation before taking cipro, eating habits, are you a smoker or drinker etc.
      One thing I can do to you, is sharing what helped me :

      Cleaned up diet : I don’t know what you normally eat, but eating lots of fresh fruits and vegetables, preferably organic, good fats (olive oil, nuts, seeds, wild cought fish), whole grains, legumes, defenelty helped immensely in the past. Also, try to stay away from caffeinated drinks, this include coffee, tea, sodas etc. Many of us, me included, develop a sensitivity to caffeine, I don’t know the reason, but many of us find that it triggers the symptoms. So I suggest you to pass on the coffee for now. Also try to avoid sugar and junk food in general. I’ve noticed, but this is just me, that milk and dairy are no good for my symptoms too.

      Supplements : during my 4 years of being a floxie, I’ve tried at least 2 dozens of different supplements, but I’ll suggest you to stick to the basics : magnesium and trace minerals, best if ionic and in liquid form, vitamin D (to me extremely important, expecially from the sun rather than from capsules, but if there’s no sun, a vitamin d (5000 iu) + k2 supplement it’s a good compromise. B complex, some of us find great benefits from it, some don’t, expecially with B6. My suggestion is to do a blood work, checking all the vitamins and minerals, find if you’re lacking some nutrients, and then, start supplementing. Keep in mind that,normally, to see if a supplement it’s doing it’s job, you need to take it for at least 6 weeks everyday, at the right dosage : dont’ expect to see some results after 3 days or maybe a week, or if taking a too small of a dose.

      Rest/ Recovery : You’re dealing with lots of stress now, you need to rest. Try to sleep well, and many hours per night, if you can of course. This is defently going to help. Also put some ice and/or magnesium oil on the parts of your body that hurt the most.

      Physical activity : This is crucial. If resting is very important, so is being active. Try to move, as mcuh as you can, without overdoing it. Walk, do push ups, squats, yoga, stretching, whatever you’re able to do, but it’s important to keep the body moving. Cipro damges the nerves, and not using them, it’s just going to add fuel to the fire. Just try to don’t push it too far. Rememebr that your body it’s in a delicate situation now.

      There’re many many other things that a floxie can do to try to improves his/her situation : cryotherapy, light therapy, nutrients IV’s, powerful antioxidants, magnetic therapy and the list goes on and on, but as I worte earlier, I suggest you to keep it essential. remember that some supplements or therapies, can defenlty help you, but sometimes, they can even hurt you, so don’t go too crazy, trying to find the magical thing that’ll heal you right away, and keep in mind what I wrote at the beginning : DON’T PANIC, and feel free to ask for anything else you need to know.
      I hope it helped.

      • Don M January 22, 2021 at 7:00 am Reply

        Andrea …. Good information for Jacob. He has it. (FLOXED or known as Fluoroquinolone Toxicity) No amount of worry or panic will help. Everyone reacts a little different when floxed. To Jacob. Do your own research and find what works for you.

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